What year did the volute start for SGs

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  1. Plan Zero

    Plan Zero Active Member

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    Just curious if SG guitars differed from basses. The slot head basses appeared from 70-72 without a volute, 3 piece mahogany. The volute didn't appear until 72 on EB-0/3s solid headstocks and maple necks I just read on here someone mentioned the volute appearing in 70 for guitars.
    I have a slot head bass with a volute and 3pc mahogany neck. I'm trying to determine if it was an early 70 or late 71. I'm guessing 71 on the chance this was a transition guitar, but that can also mean early 70 transition, though I have no idea why Gibson wouldn't produce a slot head with volute in bigger numbers since I assume it was to help the weak neck. Of course it didn't work, but the headstock breaks did become nicer looking.
    Serial number is inconclusive. See my other thread for pics of the husk and link to more info. I'll probably never know for sure, but either way I have a rarity. A link to a reputable source would be nice.
     
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    During production in 1969... I think... :hmm:
     
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    Susihukkanen Well-Known Member

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    Yes, mid 1969. There were first a small volute, that you don’t easily recognize as a volute. During 1970 it became noticeable large.
     
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    Interesting. I'm still thinking I have a 71 transition model; the volute is quite large.

    Thamks!
     
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    I think the "mosquito bite" started late '69. Before the end of '70, it was a more noticeable volute (and Made in U.S.A. added as well).
     
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    cerebral gasket Well-Known Member

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    Just to muddy the waters, I had a 1970 SG Standard for a brief time with no volute or Made in USA stamp. It had 1970 potcodes and 1969 headstock logo with open b and o, missing dot over i.
     
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    Like many guitar manufacturers, the spec's on any model year were, um, fluid.

    Somebody reached deep into a bin and yanked an old neck. Not going to be throwing it away, so bang! 1970 Guitar with an early 69 neck.

    Archtops often had at least one PAF in them into the mid-sixties. You could find the occasional SG, LP or 335 with a PAF well into 1963.

    Black finishes weren't offered on ES335s in the 60s, yet there are some black guitars from that era. It has been theorized that the opaque black was put over another finish with flaws so guitar didn't have to be junked.

    There was at least one, possibly more, single-cut Les Pauls made in 1961.

    Etc., etc., etc.

    P
     
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