Which Epiphone SG model for doom metal & stoner..?

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  1. arakatak

    arakatak New Member

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    Hi,

    I want to buy an Epiphone SG to play mainly doom metal and stoner.
    I'm just confused about which model to choose that will fit the best for those kind of music, I know any SG build in Mahogany will fit, but I want the best match...hehehe!
    I can not buy second hand, I leave in Indonesia...
    So the differences between Epiphone SG models would be more on pickups, and I don't want to upgrade the pickups later, so stock pickups have to be optimal.
    If I read the Epiphone SG pickups specs, we have :
    1. high output Alnico Classic™ (neck) and Alnico Classic Plus™ (bridge) G-400 Worn
    2. 650R™ in the rhythm position and a slightly “hotter” 700T in the lead position SG-Special VE
    3. Epiphone Alnico Classic PRO 4-wire humbuckers "1961" G-400 PRO
    4. special red- hot open-coil humbuckers with Alnico magnets featuring a 650R humbucker in the neck position and a 700T humbucker in the bridge position G-310
    5. humbucker pickups voiced specifically for the bridge position (700T) and neck position (650R) SG Special
    6. Tony Iommi Signature Humbuckers for both the lead and rhythm positions Tony Iommi Signature (I don't want this one because of the engraved crosses on the fretboard)
    7. Epiphone Alnico PRO™ humbuckers G-400 PRO
    I like fuzz pedals, and I play in drop C (12-56)
    Which one you will choose 1,2,3,4,5 or 7...?
    Thanks (and sorry for my bad English...)
     
  2. plankton

    plankton Well-Known Member

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    Options 2, 4 and 5 have the same pickups and are the hottest output.

    Option 1 has a hot bridge and a lower more vintage output neck.

    Options 3 and 7 have the same pickups and are a lower output vintage style.

    Not sure which of those combinations works best for that style of music though.

    Good luck.
     
  3. arakatak

    arakatak New Member

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    Thanks a lot..!, so basically now, remains 3 options..(2,4,5) or (1) or (3,7) ..Nice..!
     
  4. Cam.man67

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    Go with 1. Stoner metal *usually* doesn't rely on a really hot set of pickups to get the tones you're after. Especially with fuzz, lower- to medium- output pickups work best especially if they've got a fat midrange.

    I have an LP Studio with the Alnico Classic Plus bridge pickup, same as #1, and it is just about the best humbucker I've found for staying punchy with fuzz.
     
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  5. Roca

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    Get a '66 they have a wide range.
     
  6. arakatak

    arakatak New Member

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    Very good input..! Thks
     
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    Thanks, it looks difficult in Indonesia to get the '66 model...
     
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    arakatak New Member

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    Works well option 1 also for doom...? I play more doom than stoner..Thanks
     
  9. Cam.man67

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    I'll put it this way...

    If you want your tone to be fuzz-based, go with a lower-medium output pickup. Fuzzes don't (usually) work well with super high output pickups.

    Ive used every single pickup (with the exception to the Iommi ones) on your list. Of course the Alnico Classic Plus in #1 would be my first choice in your application, but the 700t is also a decent choice PARTICULARLY if you use less fuzz and more amp gain. Only problem is that all the guitars that come stock with the 700t are bolt-on necks instead of the proper set-neck construction.
     
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  10. arakatak

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    I saw a Gibson SG special 2005 with 490R/490T at around 800$ second hand..In that country, only Epiphone G-400 pro BLACK color is available new(450$)...Ok it’s an investment 800$....But, if that could fit the sound I’m looking for, why not....What do you think...? Thks
     
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    I don't much care for the 490T (or 490R, for that matter), but the '05 Gibsons are generally pretty great guitars. I have an '05 Standard and it's amazing.
     
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    Thanks for your comments, I hope it's a lower-medium output pickups.. ;)
     
  13. Cam.man67

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    Haha, no...mine has p90s.;)

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    I have 2 Epiphone SGs. A G400 with Alnico Classics (option 1) and a SG Special with a 650R and 700T pickups (option 5). Both guitars are definitely suitable to play doom and stoner metal. The Special has higher output pickups, but the G400 sounds great.
     
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    go for the gibby , if that s in your range...


    otherwise the lommi model would suit well,
    if u can live with the "crosses"...
     
  16. arakatak

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    Nice...! I meant the Gibson SG special 2005...Btw, it looks that I lost the sale for this guitar...So I have to convinced myself with the Epiphone SG G-400 pro or special or G310 all IN BLACK...Only those models available here...
     
  17. arakatak

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    Thanks...HAHAHAHA! No.., I can not live with the "crosses", I'm atheist.. and I lost the gibby sells.. :(
     
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    then i would choose the pro g 400...
     
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    I have the '66 G400 Pro, which has the same pickups as the regular pro, and I use a few different fuzz pedals and it sounds great.
     
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    My fave with stoner doom has been any of my SGs.
    I prefer lower output and power amp distortion. I've invested heavily in tube amps after buying a bunch of bass fuzz back when I only had a GKMB115 and a Fender Excelsior. I haven't even begun marrying the two (big tube amps and Fuzz). Something about greasy harmonic rich fuzz through 120+ watts of tubes makes me smile.
     

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