Wide Bevelled Pick Guard Question

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  1. Corporal Scratchy

    Corporal Scratchy Member

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    I have long been a fan of the wide bevelled angel wing pick guards fitted to SG Standards/Customs 1961-1967 period and the latter day CS iterations of these guitars. For my ’61 Reissue Standard, I bought and fitted a Creamtone replacement wide bevelled guard. I found this aesthetically pleasing, so I decided to do the same for my bat-wing 2016 Standard. Again, I was happy with the result:

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    My question is: Did Gibson ever fit wide bevelled pickguards to the first bat-winged SGs (1967-1971)? Or, in other words, is fitting such a pick guard a valid retro upgrade?

    I’ve looked at as many photos as I can and it’s hard to tell. Some vintage Standards from this time do appear to have them but these could easily be after-market replacements, later additions like mine. The only hands on experience I’ve had with first generation bat-wing guard SGs was a 1967 SG Special I owned for a few years and this definitely had a narrow bevelled pick guard.
     
  2. papagayo

    papagayo Well-Known Member

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    Lonnie from Creamtone makes nice job, I love the small wide bevel pickguard on my SG but I' m not sure about the full face one .
     
  3. Corporal Scratchy

    Corporal Scratchy Member

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    I see what you're getting at; when I first installed the batwing I thought it looked a bit too much, but I soon got used to it and now like it a lot.
     
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    Dunno about the vintage ones, like the OP said, it's not easy to tell from pics. I do know I love the look of them though!
     
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    From what I have seen, '66 SGs can be small guards or big. The wide-bevel pickguard went until it was phased out in 1968.

    Me, I wanna get a boob-logo SG someday :naughty:
    [​IMG]
     
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    gball Well-Known Member

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    To answer the beveling question, here's a photo of a real '66 (first year of the batwings):

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    So, yeah, they had wide bevels at one time.

    By '69 you got:

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    Thin ones
     
  7. Corporal Scratchy

    Corporal Scratchy Member

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    Thanks for the info, L.
    Boob logo???
     
  8. Corporal Scratchy

    Corporal Scratchy Member

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    Thanks gball, that settles it for me.

    I was also interested to see from your photo of the '66 that it has black reflector volume/tone knobs (as has Logans' featured example) which I thought disappeared alongside the angel wing guard but clearly didn't. I was half thinking of sourcing some witch hat knobs for my 2017 Standard T but I will now leave it as is, it is "retro" enough as it is!
     
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    Logan Well-Known Member

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    Common name for the pickguard logo Gibson used for a bit in 1967-1969 for a bit. They used it off and on.
    What Gibson did, and still does, they use up old parts. So, you'll get transitional features, like wide-bevel batwing guards, or thin-bevel batwings with reflectors.
     
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  10. papagayo

    papagayo Well-Known Member

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    Wide bevel pickguards are nice, on a Les Paul too

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    syscokid Well-Known Member

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    I too was scratching my head with great interest about your "boob logo" comment. I don't recall ever seeing this type of adorned pickguard. Is the logo engraved into the pickguard?
     
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    Logan Well-Known Member

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    Much more common on ES-335s than SGs. It is painted on the pickguard much like a Firebird logo, iirc. Here and here are some good reads on it.
     
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    I hear you there. The refelectors look miles better. I actually prefer speed knobs on all my guitars, but I find the spacing a bit too close on my SG Standard and Firebird. I have an '81 SG Deluxe that has the same sacing as a Les Paul and the speed knobs rule on it.
     
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  14. Corporal Scratchy

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    Thanks again for the explantation; in many years of admiring/owning/playing SGs and LPs, I have never seen/noticed this logo. You live and learn.
     
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    White pickguard is cool on black, cherry too

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