Will a Les Paul HP/SG HP pcb fit a 2018 SG Standard?

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  1. madhermit

    madhermit New Member

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    Does anyone know if the Les Paul HP pcb/circuit board will fit a 2018 SG Standard?

    Also, will the SG HP pcb circuit board fit the 2018 SG Standard? i.e. the holes line up.

    I like all the options it can give. Some of the Les Paul HPs seem to have 2 more push/pulls than the SG HP too. Maybe that was in the past?

    Not interested in opinions on tone/etc. Just if it will fit.

    Thanks for any help!
     
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    GrumpyOldDBA Well-Known Member

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    No the LP circuit boards dont fit SGs unfortunately.

    Yes SG circuit boards with or without push pulls can move between SG models.
     
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    Thanks. This isn’t easy info to find.

    Do you know if the newer HP SGs do the phase and transient push/pull stuff?
     
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    Also, anyone know if the 61 pickups are 4 wire? I haven’t picked up my guitar yet, so I can’t look.
     
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    No the gibson hp sg circuit boards even latest models do not do that just 2 push pulls. They do have dip switches for transient but no phase shift.

    There do seem to be a few people doing custom pricey 4 push pull sg circuit boards.

    Scrinia Engineering? If you check ebay for epiplug seller ...

    Google search try “jimmy page mk 2 black edition” should lead you there ...

    Theres a pricey looking thing that says epiphone sg that does it might want to contact manufacturer?

    Seems like maybe epiphone sg circuit board might work for gibson sg?
     
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    According to the Gibson site, the 2019 SG HP has push/pulls on all volume and tone knobs. As well as the 5 dip switches. Anyone know what they do?

    Controls: HP-2 High Performance Circuit featuring: 2 Push/Pull Volumes, 2 Push/Pull Tones, 3-Way Aviation Grade Toggle Switch and Internal 5-Position DIP Switch

    https://www.gibson.com/Guitar/USASR926/SG-High-Performance-2019
     
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    I do not believe the 4 push pull is accurate ... the dip switches control coil tap or split ( thats 2 of them ) high pass filter ( 2 more ) and then final one transient supression ...

    If they had 4 push pull thats HP-4 just bad editing here by Gibson.
     
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    Thanks again!
    I have asked my dealer/Canadian Gibson distributor for clarification. Would be cool if it was 4 for 2019.
     
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    GrumpyOldDBA Well-Known Member

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    Don't get your hopes up hermit.
     
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    No worries. I will have to wait for one from someone who takes it out anyway.

    Although... Sweetwater’s description lists the 2019 SG HP as having the HP-4.
     
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    Actually, from the full breakdown, it sounds like they do have 4 push/pulls:

    DIP switch (5 slide switches inside control cavity)
    • DIP 1: Neck pickup split (true single) or tapped (P-90 type tone)
    • DIP 2: Bridge pickup split (true single) or tapped (P-90 type tone)
    • DIP 3: Neck pickup treble bleed circuit (On/Off)
    • DIP 4: Bridge pickup treble bleed circuit (On/Off)
    • DIP 5: Transient suppression (Spike control) for recording
      • Neck Volume: Pull for split or tap (depending on DIP 1)
      • Bridge Volume: Pull for split or tap (depending on DIP 2)
      • Neck tone: Pull for neck pickup phase reversal
      • Bridge Tone: Pull for Full bypass (Bridge only in humbucking mode with disabled controls)
    I can't imagine all that was a typo.
     
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    Thats what a LP does.

    The 2018 HP models were supposed to do this also but turned out to be HP 2 models instead.

    We need hands on proof either way ha ha but im still guessing No.
     
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    Ok i found a pic on reverb of gibson 2019 sg hp 2 ... diagram on back of control cavity says it is exactly like my 2018 sg hp.

    Sorry no 4 push pull just two on volume.

    Gibson info here on sg hp has been shaky last 2 model years.

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    That sounds pretty definitive! Good detective work.
     
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    Thanks for clearing that up.
     

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