Your Thoughts - 2017 Pelham Blue SG Standard T

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  1. Daniel.S

    Daniel.S Well-Known Member

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    Yeah still likely to turn. It's the clear that turns yellow.
    It's like with most headlight plastics these days, you'll see if they're exposed to a lot of sun they'll haze.
     
  2. michaelinokc

    michaelinokc Well-Known Member

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    I love Pelham Blue. Mine's not a newer one, but I'd go ahead and snag one if I were you. IMG_8430.JPG
     
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  3. Sparky84

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    The wood grain does not show through mine. But I absolutely love the color. I think it was the 2019s where they came out with "Aged Pelham Blue", which was a bit darker and which I did not like as much as the original PB. Great guitar.

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  4. papagayo

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    What humbuckers did you mount on your SG?

    Sometimes 2017 models has finish problem, they came from Chicago Music Exchange (limited run) .
     
  5. Sparky84

    Sparky84 New Member

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    Ha! Don't get me started. I think there is a thread on here somewhere about my adventures with this guitar and a Reverb seller. I bought it and it arrived as promised, looked beautiful, sounded great. I excitedly posted some pics on either this or the MLP forum. Some sharp-eyed knucklehead replied "check the pickups," as he spotted that the pickup cover screws were not black, as they should have been.

    Problem is, I had the guitar delivered to my mom's house, because I live overseas, so while I've seen it and played it unplugged, I have no idea what the pickups sound like, or if they are original.

    So I go back to the seller and gently asked a few questions about the pickups, not accusing him of anything. He proceeds to completely fly off the handle. Basically he acted all offended that I had the temerity to question him when he had "outstanding ratings" on Reverb, etc., without really answering my specific questions about where he got it and why it was not the exact same guitar as in the photos in his ad. His overreaction did not increase my confidence in this purchase.

    My biggest complaint was not the color of the screws, it was that the guitar you see above was not the exact guitar in the photos, which he should have disclosed. Other sellers on Reverb do disclose that. He claimed he got the photos mixed up on his computer (really? how many Pelham Blue SGs has he sold? He's not a retailer.)

    In the end, I satisfied myself that it wasn't a fake (which was my main concern), but honestly I have no idea what if anything was done with the pickups. I suppose they should have the 490T/Rs stock? But until I have a chance to either take it apart or plug it in, I have no idea.

    I do know, however, that it looks cool and sounds and feels great unplugged, so that's the good news. I do get a bit of neck dive, I noticed, but that is manageable. Chalk it up to experience buying things online, it's always a bit of a crapshoot. But I do recommend the guitar.
     
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  6. flamesarewicked

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    I’ve had one of these on two different occasions.. great color.. reminds me of a classic car color from the 50s or 60s.
     
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    Updated since last time.

    (Posting for sale soon.)

    Tom
     
  8. OldDog

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    In case Excellent(edit).JPG My knowledge of the SG is pretty limited, but I gather these are not very common in PB, no? That doesn't seem to make much sense since gloss PB is a stunning color for this guitar shape. When I saw it in this white-lining case, I knew it was a keeper. And what's the significance of being able to see the wood grain in the finish? I can clearly see the grain in mine - a 2011. Is that good or bad and in what way?
     
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  9. JackStraw

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    If you haven't already do so. My tech who dosen't get blown away by anything new & doesn't pay lip service to placate your need to believe your guitar is aces quietly said after playing it " that's a beautiful instrument." 20180117_153125.jpg 20180117_153125.jpg 20180117_153125.jpg 20180117_153125.jpg 20180117_153125.jpg
     
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  10. semka

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    If this 2017 Pelham Blue Standard was from AMS exclusive run, it should come with '57 pickups.
     
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  11. Neil from Ottawa Canada

    Neil from Ottawa Canada New Member

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    Let's see if I get any likes...I find Pelham Blue to get boring after a short time. Had a strat in that colour....boring, dull colour.
     
  12. Herbie74w

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    I’ve always liked mine 548A45F0-4F38-4C50-B0AA-F0C1B9B5F12C.jpeg
     
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    This is correct. AMS exclusive run SG Standard in Pelham Blue pups. They are the same pups as the corresponding SG Standard of that year.

    2017 '57 Classics

    2018 '61R/'61T

    2019 '61R/'61T
     
  14. papagayo

    papagayo Well-Known Member

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    Gibson don' t use big chrome screws with black plastic and pole spacing are not the same on neck and bbridge humbuckers.
     
  15. Sparky84

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    Hi again - haven't checked the board in awhile...

    Recall that I bought this off of Reverb late last year, and when I later politely asked the seller whether there had been a pickup mod, he got more and more defensive and irate - here were just two of his many messages after the sale:

    "This guitar came from American Music- Don't be fooled by 15 year olds sitting in their parents basements..It's 100% total BS.. Read my feedback - 4 years 160 guitar sales - 100% 5 star rating. Guys on blogs and forums are trolls.. The spacing of the poles are perfect and from the Gibson factory. sometimes pics can show angles in a deceiving way.. (Obviously) the guitar is new and beautiful and plays like a beast. i played this guitar for a month. I'm a pro musician. I play 60-80 shows per year. The screws are often different from different years, finishes, and models. These idiots see a pelham blue pic with black screws because someone changed the pickups online, out and form these idiotic opinions. And start trolling everyone. Take of the back plate and look at the gibson components."

    And finally this:

    "I just found out why the screws are different. I contacted the original owner, he said that when he first bought the guitar he switched the plastic to white because he liked that look. Then switched it back to black to sell it. A subsequent email said he was missing a couple of black screws when he went to change it all back so he left the silver ones in . He goes on to say that he made NO changes to the guitar since it was new. Which is what i have said all along. Changing plastic is common with guitars, can be done by anyone, and causes no damage to guitar."

    So aside from the insults about forum trolls, what do you think about this guy's story? My main complaint is that the guitar didn't match the photos exactly, and he should have disclosed that before the sale. I suppose the only way to find out is to pull the pickups and see what they are, but the guitar is still in storage in the US. And as noted, it looked great and sounded great unplugged when I first received it, so hopefully it will also sound great when I eventually move back to the US and plug it in. But I am curious about your opinion since you spotted this as soon as I posted it. Thanks!
     
  16. SGfan84

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    Its getting harder to read posts on this forum... a lot of childish nitpicking and back and forth pettiness.

    Instead of a growing ignore list, its sometimes easier to pass on visiting this place. Too bad I never got to share my 2017 Gibson SG Std. T in ebony or my 2018 SG Faded Worn Bourbon... was looking forward to comments, but with every passing day it is obvious its not worth it.

    Finally got that out of my system. I'm out.
     
  17. Biddlin

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    Facebook, pinterest and instagram where you can block comments might be better platforms for you. Buh-bye.
     
  18. jbat

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    I have one and it’s my #1 axe. It came well set up and pretty much flawless from a fit and finish standpoint. The Pelham Blue has to be seen in person to be really appreciated. Just beautiful, IMO.

    With all the bitching about Gibson guitars, I was and am very pleased with the guitar.
     
  19. Biddlin

    Biddlin Well-Known Member

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    I don't know about that. Today's finishes are formulated very differently from 40 years ago with more elasticity and UV resistance. A worn or faded model might be more prone to environmental discoloration, but the full gloss will probably hold up pretty well, imho. BTW I'm not going to be around when my LP Goldtop turns green and flakes and I'd bet my son won't, either.
     
  20. jbat

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    I purchased mine new from Zzounds.
     

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