Bridge pickup ring height for a Burny SG?

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It's for a vintage MIJ Burny SG Standard. My bridge pickup is so high that I can't lower the action on the guitar. I believe the ones I have aren't stock and probably for a curved top LP. Does anyone know what size the bridge PU ring should be, heightwise? I can't tell from the pictures in the ad. Should they just be flat?
 

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Pickup rings look similar than Gibson' s. Did you look at the screws ?

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Yes they should be flat and you could sand the bottom of the one you have, to a height that will work for you.

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It's at the shop. One side is thinner, and then the other side slopes up to be too thick. Currently, the side that slopes up to be too thick is towards the bridge side. I'm guessing the rings should be the same thickness on both sides?
 

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Yes they should be flat and you could sand the bottom of the one you have, to a height that will work for you.

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This sort of thing. Except the thickest side comes up so high that it is preventing me from lowering the action. Wouldn't the rings for an SG be the same size all the way across both rings? I don't see a reason for the angle on a flat top, yet these rings are advertised for both an LP and SG.
 

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Wouldn't the rings for an SG be the same size all the way across both rings? I don't see a reason for the angle on a flat top, yet these rings are advertised for both an LP and SG.
They are angled in an effort to keep the pickups tops aligned in parallel with the strings, instead of the body. The neck angle on a typical Gibson SG and LP sets the strings on a different plane from the top of the body…the space gets larger as you go from the end of the fretboard, towards the bridge. This is a common issue with the large pickguard SG models with their pickups directly mounted to the pickguard…the pickups are (often) not parallel to the strings…they are more parallel to the body top.
So…you may want your pickup rings, on your particular Burny, to be shorter and less angled than they are…but you may want to retain some angle to them, to keep the pickups aligned with the strings.
 

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They are angled in an effort to keep the pickups tops aligned in parallel with the strings, instead of the body. The neck angle on a typical Gibson SG and LP sets the strings on a different plane from the top of the body…the space gets larger as you go from the end of the fretboard, towards the bridge. This is a common issue with the large pickguard SG models with their pickups directly mounted to the pickguard…the pickups are (often) not parallel to the strings…they are more parallel to the body top.
So…you may want your pickup rings, on your particular Burny, to be shorter and less angled than they are…but you may want to retain some angle to them, to keep the pickups aligned with the strings.

One thing I noticed is that there are rings with a less dramatic slope, but they are all metal for some reason.

 

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Also…what do your current rings measure height wise? (Front and rear edge heights) What is “too high” would be helpful.
You may want to be prepared to tweak whatever you decide to go with.
 

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I have no experience with these, but I found them by searching Amazon for, “Flat Bottom Humbucker Pickup Mounting Ring”

The rings both of you have found are metric size. Most, 95%, rings you'll find on eBay, Amazon, etc, are metric and will not fit a guitar with Imperial measurements, like Gibson. Look closely at the width of the ends of those rings, the are wider than the ones found on Gibson. Screw holes will not align.

Were Burny made in the USA ?

On my SG
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When you say that you can't lower the strings enough, do they touch the pickup cover or the ring itself ?
 

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The rings both of you have found are metric size. Most, 95%, rings you'll find on eBay, Amazon, etc, are metric and will not fit a guitar with Imperial measurements, like Gibson. Look closely at the width of the ends of those rings, the are wider than the ones found on Gibson. Screw holes will not align.

Were Burny made in the USA ?

On my SG
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When you say that you can't lower the strings enough, do they touch the pickup cover or the ring itself ?
My Burny is a vintage MIJ. No Burnys were made in the US. Now they make all of them in China, so you have to be careful if you want a MIJ. I have a mm ruler arriving today so I can measure. But it looks like I have the highest made. So I'm going to order a thinner one. Both the ring and the pickup come up too high. Even if the pickup was flush, it would still be too high. That was my real question was what thickness was too high? Did I need rings that were both the same thickness, or are they supposed to be sloped? If I can find one that is still sloped but not too high, I'd be ok.
 

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The rings both of you have found are metric size. Most, 95%, rings you'll find on eBay, Amazon, etc, are metric and will not fit a guitar with Imperial measurements, like Gibson. Look closely at the width of the ends of those rings, the are wider than the ones found on Gibson. Screw holes will not align.

Were Burny made in the USA ?

On my SG
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When you say that you can't lower the strings enough, do they touch the pickup cover or the ring itself ?



And my bridge SG ring and pickup are dramatically higher than yours, which is what confused me because the rings that are way too tall are still advertised for an SG and LP. My avatar is my SG, not that you can tell anything from that, but I think the rings on it are stock?
 

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My Burny is a vintage MIJ. No Burnys were made in the US. Now they make all of them in China, so you have to be careful if you want a MIJ. I have a mm ruler arriving today so I can measure. But it looks like I have the highest made. So I'm going to order a thinner one. Both the ring and the pickup come up too high. Even if the pickup was flush, it would still be too high. That was my real question was what thickness was too high? Did I need rings that were both the same thickness, or are they supposed to be sloped? If I can find one that is still sloped but not too high, I'd be ok.
Then you should be able to find something once you take accurate measurements of what you have. I found a set that has a 2mm slope to them, with flat bottoms. Burny put out some really nice SG models. Some of the older MIJ guitars are super-well-made, but may have been “modified” over their lifespan…perhaps that’s the case here.
 

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Agreed. A vintage MIJ Burny is of terrific quality. I have 3 total of them, and every one of them is pretty much Gibson CS quality if you get their high-end models from the 80s or 1990. Best deal ever if you want a "Gibson". Just got to be careful that they are "MIJ" and not just "from Japan." A real MIJ Burny will look identical to a Gibson, except it will say Burny in Gibson font.
 

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They are angled in an effort to keep the pickups tops aligned in parallel with the strings, instead of the body. The neck angle on a typical Gibson SG and LP sets the strings on a different plane from the top of the body…the space gets larger as you go from the end of the fretboard, towards the bridge. This is a common issue with the large pickguard SG models with their pickups directly mounted to the pickguard…the pickups are (often) not parallel to the strings…they are more parallel to the body top.
So…you may want your pickup rings, on your particular Burny, to be shorter and less angled than they are…but you may want to retain some angle to them, to keep the pickups aligned with the strings.

On my SG, the pickups are not mounted to the pickguard, but still have sloped rings. Thank you for your help. I finally just ordered an mm ruler so I know for sure which height the rings can be and still work. I will be ordering "flat bottom black plastic HB rings" and measuring the height by their given measurements.
 


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