1964 SG Reissue horn shapes....

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  1. leftySG61

    leftySG61 New Member

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    So I had one of the new 1964 SG reissues and unfortunately the horns, especially the longer one is still not really correctly shaped. Looking at the front of the body it looks pretty close to a vintage one but if you see a side or profile pic, the horn shape flares out. The horn shapes on the regular USA 61 are actually more accurate, although the bevels on the Custom Shop are better.

    Really disappointed that after another sort of relaunch they still can't get it right. Once you see any small guard vintage SG up close the difference is super noticeable.

    There is a chance mine was just shaped weird but I've looked at alot of pics and it seems they are all the same. Anyone else notice this?
     
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    My ‘64 RI looks like every SG I’ve seen lately. My actual ‘63 SG Junior has crisper lines. Maybe less sanding than my 2019 version of the same guitar.
    The horns look all alike on my three SG’s.
    I’ve seen sharper, but not on any of the half dozen across 1970’s versions on up that I’ve personally owned. 38F9364B-6F03-4D93-8198-62120179BDBB.jpeg
     
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    2019 & 1963
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    Yes, I notice it. I like the modern version in its own way -- makes the cutaway bevel a bit more prominent. But it should be on the modern variants, not the reissues.

    But Gibson did the same sort of thing with the early Les Paul reissues -- they started out very inaccurate, and every few years they'd update some specs to be more accurate.

    That way people would buy the "new and improved", "most accurate yet" models over and over again.
     
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    Yea love those bevels on the 63 better too!

    I get it, it slightly nit picky, but....for 4500 I think they should try and match the original contours etc.

    Yea the new 64 matches pretty much all the other CS SG models. I do also have a 2010 61 CS SG and its has slightly narrower bevels and horns but still not the rounded pointiness of the originals.

    Can you post a side or profile pic of the 63 versus the 64 RI?
     
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    Gimme a minute...
     
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    Oops
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    My 2020 CS ‘64 RI has sharper contours than the 2019 SG Junior ‘63 original reissue production model.
    On a par with the actual ‘63 SG Junior.
    The 2019 production Jr. is slightly softer on the edges. More sanding or finish perhaps, on the newer one. Not a bad copy BTW.
     
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    You can see in these two photos the difference Im talking about. The first one is my 64 RI and the second is an original 1961. Now truth be told as they moved into 1963 and 64 they weren't quite as contoured as this 61 but definitely much more than Gibson is currently making.

    You can see it a little in your picture too.

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    The difference is easier to see on your two guitars.
    Mine are more similar to each other.
    The production 2019 Jr is thinner in the rails and points, but less crisp in the carving angle breaks.
     
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    I hate to bring up this ugly Spector, but is there any chance one of them is a "knock off".
    I bought a beautiful Angus Young from a reputable dealer that turned out to be fake. Main "give away" body contours.
    Check out my tale of Woe under "Angus Yang SG, Ha, Ha, Ha."
     
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    Apologies for the bit of a light show on the last picture. My 64RI. Not got my 65 Jr to compare against but nothing struck me as odd on mine.
     
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    Yea I think all 3 1964 Reissues pretty much have the same horns from these pictures. It just kind of bugs me that they're not the correct shape of a real early 60's SG.
     
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    I think it's a golden-mean kinda decision on Gibson's part. It's not as cold-chisel thick from the sideview as the regular production Standards, but still not as aerodynamic as the originals. On the plus side, the bevels are crisp and deep and the whole shape is appealing, apart from the too thick horns.

    I really dislike the ugly lower horn bevel shape on the models using the '61 RI body. It breaks the design badly.
     
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    19DFDA52-33D5-4268-999A-D40C666F5DBE.jpeg 9907AEED-7637-44E3-B40F-DADC8E0CD1DE.jpeg Here’s my 66 FFA00B4D-28CE-4919-ADCC-CDD89C169C7A.jpeg
     
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    I have seen the 2019s and new SGs have a more accurate top horn
     

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