1964 SG Reissue horn shapes....

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  1. jonnyfez

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  2. VSG

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    As long as they are not as horrendous as on the Epiphone (copy) horns of a few years back. Wow...I had one of those about ten years ago. They were so horrendous I had to sand down the body to look like a worn model...and I reshaped the contour bevels of the horns and then re-stained them. It came out okay. It looked like an older worn model. Then I sold it to a music store and it sold quickly from there. I must have done something right. But guitar companies love playing these little games just to incite dissatisfaction in us.
     
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    Thanks I was a little apprehensive about doing it. It’s a keeper.
     
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  4. Huntroll

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    Herbie74w, IMO, yours is how they all should be.
     
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  5. Herbie74w

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    6A21C467-4287-4CCF-91D6-EFBC170AFC7D.jpeg One of the reasons I love sg is the bevels and horns. I think the new original series does a good job.
     
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    I’ll be honest, it’s not something I’ve thought on much. I did have a 1965 Jr and couldn’t pick it out of a line up from a side on photo.

    3:40 in gives a similar side on view of this ‘64 and to me I wouldn’t call that crisp or sharp. Could be another outlier with the hand finished nature.

    It’s not a thing for me, just added pictures since I had one on hand and there’s not a ton of pictures out there. I bought the guitar because I wanted an SG with a chunkier neck, it absolutely delivers on that score and sound wise it’s an absolute monster!
     
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  8. Goldtone

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    Agree! Neither crisp nor sharp there either. Seems a few are slipping but with a heavy sanding

    There is a similar issue in local shop on a top bevel sanded in too far...significant pick guard overhang. Marked now as “B” stock by the shop and price reduced
     
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    That one must have slipped past 56 or so years ago, it’s an actual 1964. Which was my point.
     
  10. Goldtone

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    Well there ya go! Nice guitar!!
     
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    There you go. Pics of the horns on a genuine '64 Standard. :smile:
     
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    Backfired for a while in the 80s when people started buying Tokai and Greco LPs that were already accurate.
     
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    Nice , very nice! Hummm

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  14. Spiral

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    I don't know what you mean. They're not all the same, model to model. Not sure why people are posting up pics of other models in comparison, when they differed year to year.

    I just bought a '64 RI, and have a '63 Pilot Run Custom Shop SG Special, and I don't expect them to be the same. They didn't have computer programmed CNC machines back in the day.
     
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    50 or 60 cycle?
     
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    Absolutely right - but we like looking at pics of SGs (and talking about them). :)
    Take away conversations about bevels, pickguard shapes, neck dive, and ban mentioning Angus and this place would be even quieter...

    Take away the bevels themselves and the SGs stop selling, as Gibson found out:
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    My '62.

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    What you're referring to is called the horn taper. It exists on modern SGs, but is not quite as heavy as the original '60s models.

    I think Gibson does a fine job with the Historics, but it would be nice if the SG got a little attention once in a while. The LP has been getting updated for accuracy all the time. The SG has only inherited a few of the LP's updates and gotten none of it's own that I can think of.

    Here's a direct comparison between a 1961 and a Reissue:

    61 vs CS.jpg 61 vs CS 4.jpg 61 vs CS 2.jpg

    The biggest difference is that the '61 bass horn tends to be more rounded. Personally, I prefer the sharper Reissue horn.

    I'd also note that by '64, the bass horn was generally sharper anyway:

    (61 vs 64)

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    I looked at your pictures and... that was a real Angus Signature. The original version did not have the narrow nut width of the current AY signatures, and kept the shallow beveling of the SG Standard it was based on. You bought it from an authorized store and Gibson told you it was authentic as well. They relisted it for the same price because it was real.

    Serial number is the proper font:

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    Electronics are all correct, the jack is genuine Switchcraft:

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    It looks like they are still using the original shape pick guard, and it is nowhere near fitting the contours of the current horns.
     

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