1999 Gibson SG Supreme Fire Burst... $3000

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  1. Torren61

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    I bought this guitar in September and now I'm selling it. Why? Because I'm selling ALL my gems (except my 1970 Gibson ES335) so I can buy a high end Santa Cruz acoustic. I need around $10,000.

    I'm asking $3000 for this first year SG Supreme. I have it listed for higher on Reverb so this is the member price right here. No tax or shipping fees for you.

    Christmas is coming. You've been working your butt off all year long and with Covid and lockdowns, it's been a hard two years. You're looking at this guitar because you want an SG. Why not get the best one for the money?

    They didn't offer a "near mint" category for condition so I had to choose excellent. But there is only the tiniest ding and the lightest scratches on this guitar. You won't find another 1999 Gibson SG Supreme in this condition. This guitar weighs 7.5 lbs.

    This is the FIRST YEAR of the Gibson SG Supremes and, in my opinion, this is the very best finish option and it is a STUNNER. This is a landmark in Gibson SG history. There are not many chances to own such a guitar in this condition.

    I have swapped out the strap pins for Schaller strap locks and I am including a Franklin reversible glove leather guitar strap so you can use either the black or the red side. Franklin straps are made in Franklin, TN and are some of the best leather straps made, period.

    These pickups are "stacked". If you don't know, that means they have two coils per pickup where a normal P-90 pickup only had one. The purpose of stacked P-90s is to eliminate hum. The neck pickup cavity is too shallow to accommodate both coils so Gibson affixed the second coil to the underside of the electronic cavity plate.

    Shipping is free. I can usually ship the next day after payment clears but I ask for three business days to get items out. I ship UPS to anywhere in the CONUS but if you prefer a different shipping service let me know but be prepared to pay the difference if they charge more.

    The guitar is sold as-described unless the guitar arrives in a condition other than described. My goal is to make you happy. If you have any issue with the guitar, contact me immediately and I will try to make you happy. I have taken lots of pictures and if you need more, I will be happy to oblige. Ask any questions before you buy. Return shipping will be paid by you.

    The guitar is beautiful and plays flawlessly. It sounds great. This may be the cleanest 1999 model guitar you will ever see.

    I accept PayPal and Venmo but you must have 500 or more posts here in this forum site.


    A short history and description of 1999 SG Supremes:

    The SG Supreme was introduced in 1999 as a high end SG model, slotting just below the SG Custom and being the top of the line USA model. Starting in 2000, humbuckers were offered alongside the P-90s and P-90s were phased out in 2001. Note: Starting in 2002, bursts emanated from the bottom instead of all sides.

    It was discontinued in 2009 and effectively replaced by the SG Carved Top. In 2016, it was reintroduced as a limited run with a carved top, similar to the SG Diablo or SG Carved Top before it. In 2017, it was effectively replaced by the SG High Performance.



    Model descriptions:

    1999-2008

    • 2000: $1,849 Street
    • 2004 - 2007: $1,999 Street
    • 2008: $2,199 Street
    Body:
    • Beveled, solid Honduran Mahogany body
      • AA figured Maple top
      • '61 Reissue style beveling
    • Nitrocellulose Lacquer finish
    Neck:

    • 1-pc quartersawn Honduran Mahogany
    • Set-in construction
      • 3 degree angle
      • Titebond glue
      • '61 Reissue style heel
    • Joins body at 22nd fret
      • Slim Taper profile (.795/.890")
      • Ebony fretboard
        • Mother of Pearl split diamond inlays
        • 12" radius
      • Large open book headstock
        • Resin impregnated fiberboard veneer
          • Inlaid Mother of Pearl Gibson logo
            • Classic font style
          • Inlaid Mother of Pearl split diamond
          • "Made in U.S.A." stamp
          • 17o pitch
        • 24 frets
        • 24 9/16" scale
        • 1 11/16" nut width
        Binding:
        • Neck, single-ply
          • Fret-edge binding
          • Thicker style
        • Headstock, multi-ply
        Electronics:
        • Two P-90 pickups (1999-2001)
        • AlNiCo V magnets
        • ~8K Ohms DCR
        • Black plastic covers
        • Two '57 Classic humbuckers (2000-2008)
          • AlNiCo II magnets
          • ~7.9k Ohms DCR
        • 3-way switch
        • 2 Vol, 2 Tone
        Hardware:
        • Gold hardware
        • Chrome hardware (Midnight Burst & Trans Black)
        • Grover Rotomatic tuning machines
            • 14:1 ratio
            • Manufactured by Ping
          • Bell shaped truss rod cover
            • 2-ply black/white, blank
          • Black/Gold Reflector knobs
          • Nashville Tune-O-Matic bridge
          • Stopbar tailpiece
          Finishes:
          • Fireburst (1999 - 2008)
            • Ebony back & sides
          • Lavaburst (2000-2002)
            • Cherry back & sides
          • Emerald Burst (2000-2008)
          • Midnight Burst w/ Chrome hardware (2000-2008)
          • Translucent Black w/ Chrome hardware (2004-2008)
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  2. Torren61

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  3. Torren61

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  4. Torren61

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    No takers on this piece of Gibson SG history? It truly is a beautiful guitar in person and sounds really good.
     
  5. Torren61

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    You know you want this but you're afraid of the price tag. I get that. BUT... where are you going to find another first year SG Supreme in this finish and in this condition? You're not. You're gonna say "But this was a factory line SG and not a Custom Shop model and you can buy a Custom Shop model for the same price." Okay. Go buy it. You're gonna have a regular looking SG that fades into the crowd of them. Cherry, right? There are ten million cherry finish SG guitars out there. "But I can get a Midnight or Emerald Burst Supreme for $2000. Okay. Go buy it. There are lots and LOTS of Midnight (I had one) and Emerald Burst Supremes out there. If you're lucky, you can find a Lava Burst.

    There are seven SG Supremes listed on Reverb right now. Three are in the USA and two of those are Midnight Burst and one is a first year Fire Burst with P90s. Mine. The others are in Geneva, Bangkok and Seoul. I'm knocking off $300 from my Reverb price and the ONLY reason I'm considering selling this piece of SG history is to reduce the guitars in my collection because they just don't get played. I don't have time. It's not right to have an exquisite instrument sitting when someone could be enjoying it.

    I listed my 1999 Les Paul Classic and i just shipped it this morning. It sold on Sunday. I listed my 2005 20th Anniversary PRS McCarty with P90s, too. It will sell. So will the Fire Burst.

    This is your chance. Time is not on your side. I'm only listing it here too because I know you folks are passionate about SG guitars and this one is special. It is AS special or MORE special than a Custom shop because it already has more than a Custom Shop will have in this price range. Ebony fingerboard, special inlays, gold hardware, AAAA maple cap, Fire Burst finish. They don't make these anymore.

    Line up 100 Custom Shop SG Guitars and put this one in the line up. Which one are you gonna be looking at?

    You can buy this one with NO tax and free shipping. I'm firm on $3000. Go to Reverb and find it. Look at my feedback. 100% positive.

    So, if you disagree and think I'm way overpricing this guitar. Please, feel free to voice your opinions. I'd love to address them. I am not in a bind for cash. I'm not rushed because I have a deal and just need to sell this guitar to make it happen. I'm not out of space. I'm perfectly fine with keeping it. But, it's going into its case and I'll pull it out when I have time to play it if I don't sell it. Sell it or keep it, I win either way.
     
  6. Decadent Dan

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    Check the “sold” box on the Reverb search.
    You might find one that has the same serial number as yours that was listed 3 months ago for nearly $1,000.00 less than your price. Hmmm
     
  7. Torren61

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    Yup. So if I bought it for $1 you'd want it for $1? Please elaborate on your point. Also notice that I didn't blur the serial number on mine. It really doesn't matter what I paid for the guitar. What matters is what it's worth. What it's worth is what a seller is willing to sell it for and what a buyer is willing to pay for it. That's what it's worth. The previous seller didn't realize the rarity and historical importance of what they had. I saw what it was and jumped on it for the price.

    Here's what it sold for. But you can't buy it for that. Show me another for sale for that price in this condition.

    https://reverb.com/item/43914372-gibson-sg-supreme-satisfacton-1999-burst?show_sold=true

    See the mark on the back? That's gone. See the incorrect tuners? Replaced with correct Grover kidney bean tuning keys but locking now. Schaller strap locks and Franklin glove leather USA made strap. It's that much nicer than when I bought it.
     
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    You said go to reverb and find it so I did. Looks like it’s had 3 owners in 7 months.
    You also said “So, if you disagree and think I'm way overpricing this guitar. Please, feel free to voice your opinions. I'd love to address them.“
     
  12. pancake81

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    Keep in mind this price is Canadian, so about $1600 US. Doesn’t have the P90’s, but I would argue the himbuckers are preferred by most, or it’s 50/50 if you don’t accept that statement.

    You can ask whatever you want for the guitar, heck, might as well bump it up to $5,000. What some asks and what the sale price is are two different things. And unless you find an individual who just has to have this Gibson USA model, I would argue those two prices are a fair ways apart. But, time will tell. You seem to be sticking to your guns.

    I don’t know the history on this guitar, bit did some one above say sold 2-3 times in the last 7 months? That can be a red flag too. Also, if you bought it recently why the price increase? Certainly the model hasn’t increased in 7 months.

    In regards to tuners being swapped, that turns some folks away as well. Especially if the item is to be a collector piece. Not to say this is, but you are advertising it as such. The guitar I posted also had the tuners changed,l, as well as a bridge. But he is also asking substantially less money.

    No doubt we will be watching to see what it goes for.

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  13. Torren61

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    I'm addressing them.

    First, I looked at every sold listing for a Fire Burst and none have a matching serial number to mine so I don't know why you would say that.

    Second, you seem to think I'm out to make a killing on this SG. If I sell this on Reverb, they're gonna gig me around $500 even if I take $3000. The buyer also has to pay tax. Reverb shipping is included with that $500 so that's my total cost for selling there. As you can see, I gave $2400 for this guitar. So, I sell it for $3000 on Reverb, they take $500 and my profit is a whopping $100.

    Third, at this point I'm seriously considering just ending the sale and bundling what guitars I want to let go and just trading them straight up with someone for the higher end acoustic I wanted in the first place.

    Fourth, you're not seeing the collectibility of this guitar. You will eventually and you'll look back on this as the time you let one get away.

    I listed the SG here because I thought you guys would appreciate what it was. My mistake. Consider it off market here.
     
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    He was lying about it being sold so many times. He's butt hurt because he wants it but he doesn't have the money so he lied to cast doubt which you ate up because you didn't check to see if it was true. Which it's not.

    The price increased because the previous seller didn't understand the significance of have a first year Supreme in this condition. I DO understand.

    You just gave a listing for a 2004. That's not a first year Supreme. They STILL want $2000 for it. That's like the difference between a '59 LP and a '60 LP.

    Like I said, consider it off market here. I'm going to let the guitar ride on Reverb until the 15th and that's it. I think I can do better with a trade locally. You guys had your shot at it.
     
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    77EF534D-5E02-49BC-B5A7-8855089C6D49.jpeg A different from 5 months ago at $2,250, same finish and p90’s.

    I have no interest in the guitar. Just saying recent asking prices were much lower. They also accepted offers so we don’t know how low they went.
     
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    I don't think he is butt hurt over not getting the guitar, perhaps he wasn't even interested in the first place. I have no idea what his finances look like, but I would wager you likely don't know either. I am not sure about the multiple listing recently, but he seems to have been able to locate several photos of the same serial number. Kind of irrelevant, but I admire his sleuthing.

    You seem to think you picked the guitar up for a song, which is great. Everyone loves a good deal. I am curious to see what it sells for.

    The listing I supplied was $2,000. Although that is $2,000 Canadian. So A far cry from your $3,000 US. Last I checked the exchange would bring it in around $1600 US. As some one who has bought and sold and collected guitars I don't see any additional value to the 1999 model, nor do I see any additional value for the color. Apparently you do, and that is okay. I guess it depends if a potential buyer see the same value.

    Personally, I would rather the 2004 with humbuckers for 48% less money. Heck, even at the same price I would prefer the 2004. But this is not about what I would buy. I am sincere when I say I wish you the best with the sale, and I think some of us will follow the sale to see how this unfolds.
     
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    Something is only worth what someone will pay for it.
     
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    Looks like the reverb listing is down. Safe to assume someone made a full price offer I suppose... :hmm:
     

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