2011 Gibson SG Special 60s Tribute or 2013 Gibson SG 50s Tribute?

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2011 or 2013

  1. 2011 Gibson SG Special 60s Tribute

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  2. 2013 Gibson SG 50s Tribute

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  3. They're pretty much the same.

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  1. Bettyboo

    Bettyboo Well-Known Member

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    At the same price which would you get - both NOS, both ebony.

    2011:

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    2013:

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    I know the 2013 has a fuller neck, and I think I'm right in saying the 2013 is also glossier.

    Please share your experiences/suggestions.

    Would you buy the 2011 at $100 more than the 2103?
     
  2. grausch

    grausch Active Member

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    I'd get the 50s purely because I like thicker necks and the fancier inlays. Not sure if the finish would be more glossy - a satin finish can become glossy over time, but it has not yet done so on my 2013 NOS. Perhaps I need to play it more...
     
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  3. Bettyboo

    Bettyboo Well-Known Member

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    What 2013 do you have, how is it?
     
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    DrBGood Well-Known Member

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    With your wrist problem, didn't you want to stay away from big necks ?
    It's the same guitar ± bling.
    Go with the 2011.
     
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  5. grausch

    grausch Active Member

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    I have the 50s Tribute. Great guitar, but I prefer the 50s neck.
     
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  6. Bettyboo

    Bettyboo Well-Known Member

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    ^ thank you.

    Yes. I'm not sure the 50s tribute is a big neck, but really the 60s slim neck or the asymmetrical neck on the future tributes would suit me best - but, I want P90s too... The 2016 special could be a good one for me too, but I know the 2011s do suit me; just been playing scales up and down the neck of the 2011 faded and no wrist issue at all. The PRS really hurt... The other option, which I'm seriously considering, is picking up another NOS 2011 faded, in cherry - why not, then changing it to P90s with a new batwing and P90s on the wood rather than the batwing (might have to add some wood). However, the 2011 special 60s tribute is already there... :D But, at $800, NOS, I don't think it's that good a deal.
     
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    Probably 2011 for me:
    Slim neck + pick guard.
    BUT...I do like the inlays on the 2013 better and if the neck is not a problem it's easy to add a pickguard ( full batwing really??) if you want one.

    I don't think retrofitting a Humbucker to P90s is the route I would take unless I was getting it for a really good price, certainly not on a new guitar.
     
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  8. AngelDeVille

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    I have the 60's and I like it. I liked the halfguard. I don't care either way about inlays, but it's easier to add a pickguard than it is to add inlays.

    The neck is close to the standard that I have.

    When I was looking at them the 50's were priced higher.

    If I was given the choice I would have just gotten the cheaper of the two, but I'm not neck sensitive.

    Batwings look like crap....
     
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    I have the 50s. Yes, the finish is thicker and glossier than most of the cheaper Gibsons. The wood isn't prepped as thoroughly, but it's nice wood and the finish (at least on my black one) is impressive.

    The neck is really nice, not too thick but a decent handful. The P90s are, well P90s. It's a really nice player.

    Haven't handled the 60s, so I can't really contrast the two. In terms of modern SGs with P90s I think the 50s represents decent value.
     
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  10. Bettyboo

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    Those are the notes I've gathered as well.
     
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    I voted for the '50s tribute. Just because I like the joke quality to
    it. Gibson stamped "Prototype" on the back of the headstock, as a way to acknowledge that an SG "fifties tribute" is a really dumb name
    for a really good guitar. I think they only made them for one year.
    I'd love to have one.

    SG with P-90s is a classic sound and combination. Ignore the name.
    The '50s Trib is a great and very unique guitar... the kind NOT to mod.
    It's the kind to treasure and respect, and play it a lot.

    The only question in my mind about the '50s Trib is those Grover Rotomatic tuners on it. Rotomatic tuners are too heavy for an SG, and can upset the balance causing neck dive. Those are factory stock, so maybe Gibson set it up
    to balance properly. Neck dive would be a deal breaker for me.

    The 2011 is just an ordinary SG special with P-90s. No flies on it at all, just more ordinary. If I had one, I'd play the hell out of it, and fall in love with it every day. I don't think you can go wrong with either one. The 2011 has
    regular Gibson tuners on it, which will work fine and balance like they
    are designed to.

    So it's a horse race...first one's ahead by a nose, then the other.
    You really have to play it, then you'll know. If you like a guitar that's unique and special, get the fifties. If you have to have one that's more common, get the 2011. They'll both sound the same to the audience. They're basically the same guitar with a few unimportant cosmetic differences.

    I own two SGs one with the large pick guard, one with the small PG.
    The PG is a non-issue. Either one is good, and for different reasons.
    Either one is a classic look. When you play it, you never look at it. And
    the audience doesn't care, not even a little bit.

    The price is something you have to decide about. My feeling is that once it's paid for, you'll be glad you bought it, and you'll be proud to
    own it and play it. That's a factor that many guys ignore, but which
    seems almost crucial to me. I believe that's why a guy might pay $3000 or
    $4000 for a Les Paul, which sounds mostly the same as an SG but has more
    imaginary swagger factor. I wouldn't, but I'm not a Les Paul guy.

    And I think that buying a Gibson guitar which has HB p'ups with the intention of modding it for P-90s is a bad idea. Too much hassle and expense, to end up with something you can't sell. It's so easy to find
    an SG with P-90s, why go through all that? You'd be better off buying an empty body that's routed for P-90s or mini-hums, and
    then creating what you want... IMHO.
     
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  13. Bettyboo

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    I'm not fond of the Grovers on an SG either; they are good tuners and do the job well, but I just prefer the traditional Kluson style by Gotoh, for example.

    I really like it, but in the end, I couldn't get it at a reasonable price; it was $200 more than the other tributes and specials.

    Yeah, in the end, I paid $700 - not a great price for a guitar that was being sold off for $449 a couple of years ago, but they are now on ebay used for $850+, and I haven't seen new ones at good prices; I suspect that there are very few NOS left and people are starting to realize these are really good guitars.

    Oh dear! :D I now have 2 humbucker SGs and two great P90s sitting in my draw waiting to be used. Something has to give...

    So, I ended up with the guitar below because:

    - Great neck; it has the slim 60s asymmetrical which gets great reviews from everyone.
    - I wanted a nitro Gibson, but I prefer the thinner nitro finishes.
    - The Col. will like this: I wanted to try a guitar with the 57/57+ combination to see if it's as good as they say, and compare it directly to my 2011 faded special which has 490R/Angus Young pickups.
    - I thought I'd like to try the Steinberg tuners.
    - If I don't like the 57/57+ pups then I can sell them easily.
    - If I don't like the tuners then apparently they are now in demand; I only found one set on ebay and they were $300!!! I can't believe they're worth that much.
    - a 24 fret SG - why not.
    - I like ebony, and if the front finish looks poor then there are full batwing pickguards made specifically for this guitar.
    - I thought it'd be nice to have an SG with the inlays instead of dots.

    I will do a NGD thread soon.

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    Hope she serves you well!!

    cheers mate and happy new guitar day
    waiting for pics to come!
     
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    Thank you, Ypnos.

    After playing many guitars recently, buying and selling a dozen over the last two years; I really can't find anything that I like as much as Gibson SGs; I know I'm speaking to the converted here, but $600-$700 gets a great playing and sounding instrument (in the US and Canada, you see some of these on blowout for $300-$500...).
     
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    I was looking for some reviews on TV Jones pickups and found the following modded 50s tribute. Not sure if the pics will show, but the link should work.

    https://goo.gl/images/MGHpk5[​IMG]

    I think it looks pretty good like this.
     
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    ^ yeah, that does look good.
     
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    I did briefly look at that one, but the uncovered pickups aren't my style, but other than that it's pretty damn cool.

    Congrats!
     
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    ^ it will very likely become a P90 guitar; I really like the neck, and because I love the full batwing I reckon it'll look cool when completed. But, my P90s are cream, so I'll have to see if they look ok or I'll need to get black covers.

    I really like the 2016 SG standard P90, but I don't like the binding/nibs, and I couldn't find one at a price I could afford. So, my plan is to end up with something like the 2016 P90 standard!

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    in ebony, so a bit like this one (actually, a lot like this one), but righthanded and 24 frets:

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  20. 12ay7a

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    I HAVE the 2011 60s SG Special, but I did mods necessary to make it MY guitar: Ron Ellis '50s wind P90s, Grovers, '50s wiring and String-Saver saddles. If you can afford Ron's pickups, including the wait (waited years for mine but they were in the design phase for years, and mine are prototypes), they truly are the best. '50s or '60s wind. He doesn't do "custom" winds, he's not like Burger King. I'm a Grover/Schaller guy. So is Townshend. Finally, being mostly a Fender guy, I like dots, not trapezoids.,
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