Thanks for the info. I know that I need to try them both side by side ideally, it's just hard to find them locally to do that. I think I will probably prefer the pickups in the 61 as I've heard 490s before and not been crazy about them. It's mostly about the neck for me, whether to go rounded on that new Standard, or slim taper on the 61. But the grovers will add a bit of weight on the headstock for the Standard, so I guess that's a factor too - I know they could be changed out, but grovers and a thicker neck probably both mean more neck dive than the slim taper Kluson equipped 61, everything else bring equal.