Anyone heard about the Angus Young SG being redesigned by Gibson?

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  1. gnolivos

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    [quote author=suicidehummer link=topic=19746.msg239714#msg239714 date=1253669962]
    True, he doesn't even play his Sig.

    And also true about the '68 RI. That's partly why I like it.

    But the devil is really his signature. He said in an interview when he was at a restaurant and the service was bad, he would draw the little devil on a napkin, lol. And it's a representation of what he is on stage.

    From a practical standpoint, I would agree but aesthetically that would be a bit crowded on a TRC.
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    I think the point he's making is that *if* the logo is on the truss rod cover, it is VERY EASILY REMOVABLE :)
     
  2. HWY2H377

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    [quote author=suicidehummer link=topic=19746.msg239714#msg239714 date=1253669962]
    From a practical standpoint, I would agree but aesthetically that would be a bit crowded on a TRC.
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    if it's good enough for Tony, then it's good enough for everyone.
     
  3. suicidehummer

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    [quote author=gnolivos link=topic=19746.msg239717#msg239717 date=1253671803]
    I think the point he's making is that *if* the logo is on the truss rod cover, it is VERY EASILY REMOVABLE :)
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    That's why I said I agree from a practicality standpoint; it's easy to remove. But aesthetically it's crowded.

    [quote author=HWY2H377 link=topic=19746.msg239720#msg239720 date=1253672495]if it's good enough for Tony, then it's good enough for everyone.
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    I don't recall saying it wasn't good enough for Angus... :coolsmiley:
     
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    [quote author=suicidehummer link=topic=19746.msg239725#msg239725 date=1253674298]
    I don't recall saying it wasn't good enough for Angus.
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    Angus, Tony, Robby, Pete, whomever... any of their names could be made to fit.
     
  5. Mayfly

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    [quote author=dbb link=topic=19746.msg239704#msg239704 date=1253666897]
    Ditto on the last part - and why not cover the headstock with an AC/DC sticker if it please you. It doesn't bother me, but then again one of the trad Gibson inlay designs there would be more to my taste.

    Personally I'd drop Angus' design and name completely (and the extra $$$ for the endorsement) and see if we can get the price even lower. Of course then I guess it is no longer an Angus Young SG.

    Frankly I could give a sh*t about celeb endorsement guitars, even of guitarists I really love like Townshend, etc. I'd just as soon have a good replica of the guitar they played at their iconic best - just like they had it, as a plain old Gibson or Fender or whatever.

    For instance why does Fender get so much extra bucks for the Clapton or Gilmore model Strats? the name and a few features that are not THAT expensive?
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    Gilmore's guitar was a normal CBS Strat bought in an emergency after a truckload of PF equipment was stolen in 1969. OK, he messed around with different necks and pickups etc., but the bare bones are basically not a particularly collectable guitar. Yet Fender go and then give it the "Classic Strat" label... (as though they made Gilmour's alterations for him!)
    The same thing happened with Malmsteen's 1971 Strat - just a normal, not particularly collectable CBS era guitar, and yet it now suddenly has the "Classic" label slapped on it (along with the obligatory higher number on the price tag).

    I need a reality check on such guys. I also need one on those people buying these guitars and encouraging more "Classic" re-runs. A new AY model would only be cool if the price label reflected the work and components rather than the celebrity status. AY is probably responsible for more sales of SGs than the whole Gibson marketing team put together, so they shouldn't use him to make money like that (and especially not produce another guitar I've never seen him play).

    There's my 2 cents. Phew, I feel better after that...
     
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    "they should limit the logo/sig to the truss rod cover"


    Uhm,

    Then people would complain it was a 68 RI with a truss rod cover with a picture on it.

    Are people really complaining that the Angus Young Signature guitar has a signature cartoon of him on it? Seriously, it is his signature. I know a lot of people complained about the Sting Fender P bass signature that had a sting inlay on the 12th fret but it was his sig, just because you want a guitar like it without any idenitifying marks on it doesn't mean there is something wrong with what they put out.

    It seems to me that if anything people who want an Angus sig should want one that is closer to what his actual guitar is like, but not be very concerned over the cartoon.
     
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    [quote author=Tenafly Viper link=topic=19746.msg239744#msg239744 date=1253712391]
    "they should limit the logo/sig to the truss rod cover"

    Then people would complain it was a 68 RI with a truss rod cover with a picture on it.
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    so that's the only thing that makes it an AY? and how else can you get 68?


    [quote author=Tenafly Viper link=topic=19746.msg239744#msg239744 date=1253712391]
    It seems to me that if anything people who want an Angus sig should want one that is closer to what his actual guitar is like, but not be very concerned over the cartoon.
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    do any of his guitars have that headstock with the drawing on it?
     
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    [quote author=HWY2H377 link=topic=19746.msg239727#msg239727 date=1253676333]
    Angus, Tony, Robby, Pete, whomever... any of their names could be made to fit.
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    Sure, but you seem to be ignoring the fact that it would look like ****.
     
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    Iommi's sig doesn't look like crap so why would anyone else's?
     
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    [quote author=HWY2H377 link=topic=19746.msg239752#msg239752 date=1253721631]
    ...and how else can you get 68?
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    There seems to be plenty of sellers on ebay who'll sell you a '72-up and tell you it's a '68. Other than that, you've got the Krieger. the AY really isn't that close to a real '68 - but then Angus' wasn't a '68 anyway.

    Guitar Center has plenty of Pete Townshend sig guitars it seems - everything's broken!
     
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    [quote author=suicidehummer link=topic=19746.msg239694#msg239694 date=1253661742]
    Well I don't hear people complaining about the Ace Frehley LP having Ace's face on the HS...
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    Ace is Da Man!!!!
    And that was a limited run of 300
    The production run has maintained great value as well.
    Besides.....Ace plays his model.

    You have no idea what Ace did for many of us in our 40's now.

    Yes I like Angus and I'm not comparing players. Just the take on what a Signature Model Should be..At a minimum...Played buy the guitarist.
     
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    [quote author=HWY2H377 link=topic=19746.msg239766#msg239766 date=1253733988]
    Iommi's sig doesn't look like crap so why would anyone else's?
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    Because the devil is Angus's signature.
     
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    [quote author=suicidehummer link=topic=19746.msg239791#msg239791 date=1253748757]
    Because the devil is Angus's signature.
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    no, his signature is his signature

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    [quote author=Mayfly link=topic=19746.msg239742#msg239742 date=1253711882]
    Gilmore's guitar was a normal CBS Strat bought in an emergency after a truckload of PF equipment was stolen in 1969. OK, he messed around with different necks and pickups etc., but the bare bones are basically not a particularly collectable guitar. Yet Fender go and then give it the "Classic Strat" label... (as though they made Gilmour's alterations for him!)
    The same thing happened with Malmsteen's 1971 Strat - just a normal, not particularly collectable CBS era guitar, and yet it now suddenly has the "Classic" label slapped on it (along with the obligatory higher number on the price tag).

    I need a reality check on such guys. I also need one on those people buying these guitars and encouraging more "Classic" re-runs. A new AY model would only be cool if the price label reflected the work and components rather than the celebrity status. AY is probably responsible for more sales of SGs than the whole Gibson marketing team put together, so they shouldn't use him to make money like that (and especially not produce another guitar I've never seen him play).

    There's my 2 cents. Phew, I feel better after that...
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    I do too. I guess I'm not alone in wondering about all the celebrity models. After all, hardly anyone plays their own model unlike Ace (maybe Clapton did bit) and even the Les Paul that Les played was NEVER offered as a Gibson model. at least it was an LP of a sort...I think flat top, low impedence pickups, etc.

    It seems like what all y'all want is not an so much an Angus sig model but a good 68 RI SG.

    So would I.
     
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    ^Zakk Wylde sure does play his own sig.
     
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    [quote author=TNT link=topic=19746.msg239820#msg239820 date=1253758788]
    ^Zakk Wylde sure does play his own sig.
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    at least he or gibson had the sense to put his sig/logo/whatever on the back of the headstock not prominently or permanently on the front.
     
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    A little off topic but saw Ace on "red eye" tonight, he was playing a LP with the same lightening bolt inlays as Angus' SG clone. Of Course it also had a gawd awful carnival ride metallic flake paint job too, but the inlays were cool.
     
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    I love Les Pauls with God awful carnival ride metal flake.
     
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    [quote author=nynvolt link=topic=19746.msg239829#msg239829 date=1253781485]
    A little off topic but saw Ace on "red eye" tonight, he was playing a LP with the same lightening bolt inlays as Angus' SG clone. Of Course it also had a gawd awful carnival ride metallic flake paint job too, but the inlays were cool.
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    that would be his new Gibson sig model

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    [quote author=HWY2H377 link=topic=19746.msg239861#msg239861 date=1253808991]
    that would be his new Gibson sig model
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    Which looks a lot nicer than I thought it would. It's actually rather more tasteful than I would have imagined. Even the Kiss-face logo headstock isn't so bad.
    I bet it plays the blues well, too. :roll:

    And good for Zakk!
     

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