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Post Number: 134
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---This is an example of a 71' Marshall 10watt, 2-10" combo I picked it up at a small guitar show in Connecticut 8 years ago for $450! I believe the model number is #1930. Marshall 10w #1\ As you can see it has a beautifully aged basketweave salt and pepper grill aged to an even brown hue! The panel is a brushed metal one with controls, left to right of; speed, Intensity,Tone, volume, Low and high imputs, Tone, volume, low and high imputs. Marshall 10 Like most earlier Marshalls, one channel is dark and the other has more treble emphasis.The speakers are two 10" ceramic magnet Goodman power range 15w speakers. This is good because being a Marshall that 10 watts is very loud. Now with the speakers being a total of 30 watts we can play this bad boy on 11 all night long with no worries. YEAH! Marshall 10w #3
---The amp is pretty reasonable to carry around being 20"H x 24"W x 9"D. Just about right! Next, the circuit. Pass if your not interested in circuit topologies as this is why it sounds like it does. I'll not be too technical!
---It has one preamp tube with a shared cathode, a first stage which feeds the simple tremolo circuit and second stage off that cathode,as well as taking a signal off the 1st stage plate, then fed to a long tail phase inverter into a very interesting tube. Its's two ECL86 that has a driver stage and power stage in one tube! Not seen much in too may popular guitar amps. In fact, quite rare. The signal goes in the tube after phase inversion is achieved, comes out again to the driver circuit , back in again to be amplified and out to the tiny, cute, output transformer. It's less than 1/2 the size of your fist. Enough of that............
---This amp has had a few minor repairs and I've never gotten around to see if there "proper". It only runs on 220v so if you look carefully you'll see a small step up transformer hanging down near the speakers. I'm having a time trying to find orientation yielding the least noise. Now, What's it sound like you ask? Well here's the fun, you decide! All three clips were done with a 61' SGLP w/ PAF's. Bridge, neck and middle settings were used on two solo, one rhythm track. Volume and tone on 11 on the amp and levels from the guitar. I recorded into the computer mike w/ mike level at 50% due to loud amp volume.
--Ist up- bass channel- neck pickup backed off to 8, tone 10 thru bass channel.
http://www.everythingsg.com/sounds/10w_marshall_Basschannel_ both_pickups.wav
--2nd up- Lead channel- bridge pickup full up, about half way thru the neck pickup takes over till the last chord.
http://www.everythingsg.com/sounds/10w_marshall_leadchannel_bridge-neck.wav
--3rd up- lead channel, middle setting, more bridge than neck, full up, slightly backed neck tone, rhythm track.
http://www.everythingsg.com/sounds/10w_marshall_leadchannel_bridgepickup_rhythm.wav
--The amp has mostly low cost ceramic disc caps which make this amp sound characteristically grainy. This is good or less good depending on what YOU like.It does have the Marshall crunch but not as much sing as the bigger, more common models have. You can pull a cry out of it and things can tend to hang on the verge of feedback but again it's easier with it's bigger cousins. It's not quite as touch sensitive as I would of liked it to have been. I was tempted to use some pedals as they worked very well here but then you wouldn't know the dry sound of the amp, but, with the right ones it will work on any small gig or rehearsal where sound levels are a problem! Down low, they loose their spunk fast, so be warned! I'm not sure what these sell for now but if you have the extra dosh it could be a fun addition to your arsenal. Try first though as there not for everyone's needs and definitely have some sonic limitations. This was a mid level-entry level amp. And depending on the cost one is offered for, I feel on a sliding scale, the money might be more well spent elsewhere..... It's a cool little gem though....If this proves popular perhaps we could look at an Ampeg EchoTwin next? Anyone else get to play one of these?
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Essesseel
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Post Number: 80
Registered: 02-2004
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http://www.valveamps.com/
cool valve amp site.
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Essesseel
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Post Number: 81
Registered: 02-2004
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i had to "right click and save as" for the linkx voxman. maybe its me crappy pc..cool anyway.
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Lagger
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Post Number: 144
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Saturday, March 06, 2004 - 10:34 pm: Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
nice post Voxman Look at this!! Use it !! you won't regret it !!
Ultimate SG wiring Schematic
[url]http://www.everythingsg.com/discus/messages/12/2200.gif [/url]
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Voxman
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Post Number: 136
Registered: 10-2003
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Essesseel, I used to have to do that too, and a lot of times they never opened up so I downloaded from Micro's site and upgraded to a newer version of windows media player and solved the problem.I really didn't want their fruity new player as it's not the summer of 66' and I don't care for their light show on the left side of the screen! Unless I'm having those battery acid spritzer's again!
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Admin
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Post Number: 157
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Sunday, March 07, 2004 - 06:37 am: Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
The links should be playable in Windows Media Player, Musicmatch, or any other music player that supports WAV files.Tom
www.everythingsg.com
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Lagger
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Post Number: 152
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Posted on Monday, March 08, 2004 - 07:07 am: Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
if you have a popupstopper disable it for this page... might helpLook at this!! Use it !! you won't regret it !!
Ultimate SG wiring Schematic
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Essesseel
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Post Number: 88
Registered: 02-2004
Posted on Monday, March 08, 2004 - 05:48 pm: Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
its cool voxman, i got the new player anyways,, but id prefer to save em right clicked. just thought id mention that clicking the link didnt work for me to highlight any possible probs...
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Post Number: 163
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Posted on Tuesday, March 09, 2004 - 05:36 pm: Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
I clicked the links and they opened up just fine for me in Windows Media Player.Tom
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Voxman
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Post Number: 142
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2004 - 10:39 am: Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
Low and behold! I've found a 10w being offered on-EmakeofferbeforeyoubidthenclosethedealBAY---I can't believe what he wants! http://cgi.aol.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=10171&item=3711250383
When, I was going to review this crocodile Selmer Thunderbird but didn't think anyone would be that interested:
http://cgi.aol.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=10171&item=3711252446
Which is a killer amp,much better sounding,and more of an amp for the money, ESPECIALLY in a 30w version! Worth every dime IF your so inclined! Fu
Voxman
Vintage Vintage SG Member
Username: Voxman
Post Number: 134
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Saturday, March 06, 2004 - 09:08 pm: Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
---This is an example of a 71' Marshall 10watt, 2-10" combo I picked it up at a small guitar show in Connecticut 8 years ago for $450! I believe the model number is #1930. Marshall 10w #1\ As you can see it has a beautifully aged basketweave salt and pepper grill aged to an even brown hue! The panel is a brushed metal one with controls, left to right of; speed, Intensity,Tone, volume, Low and high imputs, Tone, volume, low and high imputs. Marshall 10 Like most earlier Marshalls, one channel is dark and the other has more treble emphasis.The speakers are two 10" ceramic magnet Goodman power range 15w speakers. This is good because being a Marshall that 10 watts is very loud. Now with the speakers being a total of 30 watts we can play this bad boy on 11 all night long with no worries. YEAH! Marshall 10w #3
---The amp is pretty reasonable to carry around being 20"H x 24"W x 9"D. Just about right! Next, the circuit. Pass if your not interested in circuit topologies as this is why it sounds like it does. I'll not be too technical!
---It has one preamp tube with a shared cathode, a first stage which feeds the simple tremolo circuit and second stage off that cathode,as well as taking a signal off the 1st stage plate, then fed to a long tail phase inverter into a very interesting tube. Its's two ECL86 that has a driver stage and power stage in one tube! Not seen much in too may popular guitar amps. In fact, quite rare. The signal goes in the tube after phase inversion is achieved, comes out again to the driver circuit , back in again to be amplified and out to the tiny, cute, output transformer. It's less than 1/2 the size of your fist. Enough of that............
---This amp has had a few minor repairs and I've never gotten around to see if there "proper". It only runs on 220v so if you look carefully you'll see a small step up transformer hanging down near the speakers. I'm having a time trying to find orientation yielding the least noise. Now, What's it sound like you ask? Well here's the fun, you decide! All three clips were done with a 61' SGLP w/ PAF's. Bridge, neck and middle settings were used on two solo, one rhythm track. Volume and tone on 11 on the amp and levels from the guitar. I recorded into the computer mike w/ mike level at 50% due to loud amp volume.
--Ist up- bass channel- neck pickup backed off to 8, tone 10 thru bass channel.
http://www.everythingsg.com/sounds/10w_marshall_Basschannel_ both_pickups.wav
--2nd up- Lead channel- bridge pickup full up, about half way thru the neck pickup takes over till the last chord.
http://www.everythingsg.com/sounds/10w_marshall_leadchannel_bridge-neck.wav
--3rd up- lead channel, middle setting, more bridge than neck, full up, slightly backed neck tone, rhythm track.
http://www.everythingsg.com/sounds/10w_marshall_leadchannel_bridgepickup_rhythm.wav
--The amp has mostly low cost ceramic disc caps which make this amp sound characteristically grainy. This is good or less good depending on what YOU like.It does have the Marshall crunch but not as much sing as the bigger, more common models have. You can pull a cry out of it and things can tend to hang on the verge of feedback but again it's easier with it's bigger cousins. It's not quite as touch sensitive as I would of liked it to have been. I was tempted to use some pedals as they worked very well here but then you wouldn't know the dry sound of the amp, but, with the right ones it will work on any small gig or rehearsal where sound levels are a problem! Down low, they loose their spunk fast, so be warned! I'm not sure what these sell for now but if you have the extra dosh it could be a fun addition to your arsenal. Try first though as there not for everyone's needs and definitely have some sonic limitations. This was a mid level-entry level amp. And depending on the cost one is offered for, I feel on a sliding scale, the money might be more well spent elsewhere..... It's a cool little gem though....If this proves popular perhaps we could look at an Ampeg EchoTwin next? Anyone else get to play one of these?
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Essesseel
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Post Number: 80
Registered: 02-2004
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http://www.valveamps.com/
cool valve amp site.
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Essesseel
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Username: Essesseel
Post Number: 81
Registered: 02-2004
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i had to "right click and save as" for the linkx voxman. maybe its me crappy pc..cool anyway.
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Lagger
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Username: Lagger
Post Number: 144
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Saturday, March 06, 2004 - 10:34 pm: Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
nice post Voxman Look at this!! Use it !! you won't regret it !!
Ultimate SG wiring Schematic
[url]http://www.everythingsg.com/discus/messages/12/2200.gif [/url]
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Voxman
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Post Number: 136
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Sunday, March 07, 2004 - 05:52 am: Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
Essesseel, I used to have to do that too, and a lot of times they never opened up so I downloaded from Micro's site and upgraded to a newer version of windows media player and solved the problem.I really didn't want their fruity new player as it's not the summer of 66' and I don't care for their light show on the left side of the screen! Unless I'm having those battery acid spritzer's again!
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Admin
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Post Number: 157
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Sunday, March 07, 2004 - 06:37 am: Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
The links should be playable in Windows Media Player, Musicmatch, or any other music player that supports WAV files.Tom
www.everythingsg.com
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Lagger
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Username: Lagger
Post Number: 152
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Monday, March 08, 2004 - 07:07 am: Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
if you have a popupstopper disable it for this page... might helpLook at this!! Use it !! you won't regret it !!
Ultimate SG wiring Schematic
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Essesseel
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Username: Essesseel
Post Number: 88
Registered: 02-2004
Posted on Monday, March 08, 2004 - 05:48 pm: Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
its cool voxman, i got the new player anyways,, but id prefer to save em right clicked. just thought id mention that clicking the link didnt work for me to highlight any possible probs...
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Admin
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Post Number: 163
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Posted on Tuesday, March 09, 2004 - 05:36 pm: Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
I clicked the links and they opened up just fine for me in Windows Media Player.Tom
www.everythingsg.com
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Voxman
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Username: Voxman
Post Number: 142
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2004 - 10:39 am: Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
Low and behold! I've found a 10w being offered on-EmakeofferbeforeyoubidthenclosethedealBAY---I can't believe what he wants! http://cgi.aol.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=10171&item=3711250383
When, I was going to review this crocodile Selmer Thunderbird but didn't think anyone would be that interested:
http://cgi.aol.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=10171&item=3711252446
Which is a killer amp,much better sounding,and more of an amp for the money, ESPECIALLY in a 30w version! Worth every dime IF your so inclined! Fu
