Big or small? You be the judge

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  1. pancake81

    pancake81 Well-Known Member

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    Lol, that could be the funniest thing I read in awhile
     
  2. Roca

    Roca Active Member

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    Smaller, I would definitely buy one with a flying v headstock!!!
     
  3. jtees4

    jtees4 Well-Known Member

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    Small. I always tend to like smaller headstocks, on Gibsons and other brands also. I like the smaller Strat headstocks too...hate the 70's but then again I don't like Strats, just don't work for me. But I love Teles, and they seem to have the smallest headstocks of anyone....so they work for me on many levels I guess!
     
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    rotorhead Well-Known Member

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    For the SG I like smaller ones.
     
  5. Dale

    Dale Well-Known Member

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    Small. Sculpted horns. But I will love any that play well. Especially if I own it.
     
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  6. Roca

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    I like the smaller ones. Don't hurt me but I actually like the clipped epiphone head better on a sg than the open book Gibson style.
     
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  7. Col Mustard

    Col Mustard Well-Known Member

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    headstock fetish is alive and well!

    That ought to keep some conversation going.

    I absolutely love the large '70s style headstock on my
    '72 Telecaster deluxe replica (MIM 2006)
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    To me, this is Fender goodness collected into a very interesting package.
    The headstock shape has no effect on tone, so what we're talking about is
    merely superficial decoration. But I like this Fender Telecaster deluxe
    right well.

    AND I absolutely love the LOOOONG headstock on my Epiphone ES-339 P-90 Pro.
    I don't know where they came up with this design, but it suits me very well
    indeed, and it looks great on Epiphone's version of Gibson's ES-339.
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    This Epi headstock seems a bit stretched, but I like it a lot, and it has no
    effect on tone. I installed locking Gotoh tuners on this guitar and it tunes
    easily and stays that way. That's about all I ask of a headstock.
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    Here's the headstock of my new Gibson J-45 AG... Regular Gibson size.
    It came with Grover mini-Rotomatics, but I replaced them with Waverly keys.
    It's a lovely thing, built in Montana just before Gibson's troubles boiled over.
    But the headstock has only a small effect on tone.

    I usually don't get too deeply involved in discussions of how the qualities of wood
    might affect the tone of an electric guitar. I'll just quietly suggest that wood is
    like, not magnetic. Then I'll make some popcorn and go somewhere else to eat.

    Because I'm an acoustic guitar player, and tone wood is a crucial component of
    acoustic guitar tone. Headstock mass and density might have a small effect, I
    don't know. But I presume that it does, because every other part of an acoustic
    guitar has some effect. It's all in the vibrations, no magnets.

    This J-45 has a maple neck, and a walnut fretboard. It has a walnut bridge, and
    walnut back and sides. The top is good spruce from where ever Gibson gets their
    spruce these days. Sitka or the Adirondacks, but the whole guitar is made of
    North American tone wood.
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    Would it have more sustain if the headstock were oversize? ...naw.
     
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    Worblehat Well-Known Member

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    Yes! I thought I was the only one and did not dare to speak it out loud :thumb:
     
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    Col Mustard Well-Known Member

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    headstock fetish leads us down some strange highways
    doesn't it?
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  10. PermissionToLand

    PermissionToLand Well-Known Member

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    Actually, there are three different sizes.

    The narrowest is the current USA Standard headstock:

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    Then the Custom Shop is just a little wider, the classic '60s size:

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    Then the '61 RI is the widest and is identifiable by its pointy edges:

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    That's because the '61 RI was originally designed coming out of the Norlin era when they still used the large headstocks.
     
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    pancake81 Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the info, I had no idea.

    I am going to compare my custom shop and my 61 reissue !
     
  12. Relic61

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    There always seems to be people that are concerned with how big or wide things are, 'specially tha ladies. Always sizing up the headstock.

    Unless we allow for the SG Melody Maker style to be recognized as well.

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    ('67 SG Melody Maker)

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    This particular '67 came with a nice fat 'n round neck, which might interest some of tha Ladies as well!

    Very Schexy yah??

    But maybe those ladies might like my '68 better?...

    68 Melody Maker 3(2) (276x660).jpg

    68 Melody Maker headstock front (343x460).jpg

    He's got a wang-bar they can wiggle!

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  13. Hector

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    who cares... just play it? :D
     
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    PermissionToLand Well-Known Member

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    I think they used the '61 RI headstock on the Custom Shop AY. If my theory is correct, that was Angus' first SG after being extensively rebuilt by Jaydee including an entirely new neck. So although a '70/71 SG would have still had the last of the '60s headstocks, Jaydee seems to have modeled it on the later '70s style. However the edges don't seem quite as pointy. It may be a totally unique shape not shared with any other Gibson because it's really copying a Jaydee.

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  15. Daniel.S

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    Looks like someone got too excited with the sander. :p
     

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