Blackwood Tek - the new Rosewood or Ebony

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  1. SG standard

    SG standard Well-Known Member

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    I'd heard that a few manufacturers were switching from rosewood to blackwood, (such as Reverend), but I didn't know anything about the material until I saw this page:

    http://www.madinter.com/blackwood-tek.html?___store=en&___from_store=default

    I hadn't realised that it was available in a variety of finishes. It'll be interesting to see how it performs - apparently Revered tried a few alternatives with their artists, and this was the favourite. Good to see it's from a renewable source too.
     
  2. Rox

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    So they use dye, resin and compress the blackwood.

    Rather sounds like a process that you could use on any wood given that the natural characteristics of the wood is changed through the process.

    Interesting, but likely to become a guitar footnote like Richlite and baked maple. Guitarists can be a fussy bunch. :rofl:
     
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    I agree with rox about how (un)accepting the guitar community can be about new thing.

    Ebony seems to be becoming impossable to get, but as long as rosewood is still available I dont think any of these synthetic options will catch on.

    I could see other 'exotic' woods becoming popular as fret board material if some current trends continue but Im just not shure about the synthetics.
     
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    Seems interesting enough. I don't have the slightest problem with the Richlite, so this wouldn't bother me either.
     
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    With all the problems manufacturers face importing exotic woods and all the controls/ limits, I'm not suprised!
     
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    chilipeppermaniac Well-Known Member

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    I have no issues with Baked Maple either.
     
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    bwotw Well-Known Member

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    Looks good enough. I don't mind alternative woods on fretboards. Or even Richlite. As long as it looks and feels good, it's OK
     
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  8. Raiyn

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    I don't have any issues with Richlite / Phenolic resin. It's also nice to see Reverend isn't afraid to innovate.

    BTW: By the way, Blackwood Tek is made from Pinus radiata, from the family Pinaceae. It's otherwise known as the Monterey pine, insignis pine or radiata pine, it's a species of pine native to the Central Coast of California and Mexico.
    It is the most widely planted pine in the world, valued for rapid growth and desirable lumber and pulp qualities.
     
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  9. kiko

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    The tone wood guys are not going to like this.
     
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  10. Rox

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    At it's basic level, wood is fibre held together with a natural resin. We're all just conditioned now to think of artificial as bad...
     
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    More reasonably priced guitars for us then!
     
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    Y'know, it's funny to me about the cost too...an ebony fretboard blank is about $30 unslotted. A Richlite one is about $20. Not that huge a raw-materials cost saving on a guitar that may sell for thousands of dollars. But cost is the first thing the corksniffers point to when they call foul on non-traditional materials, when in fact I really do believe it is fueled by guitar builders being proactive about the very real possibility that they won't be able to obtain these woods easily in the future.
     
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    You are probably correct (as usual) GBall.

    If only trees were a renewable resource ;-)
     
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    Can of worms mate. Can of worms.

    Suffice to say the pine stuff grows faster and is more completely usable than other more exotic woods.
     
  15. Rox

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    I don't think the name in this instance helps.

    Blackwood - sounds interesting. Tek - sounds suspicious... :shock:
     
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    Resistance is futile.
     
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    Something that those "renewable resources" folks seem to ignore is that every time you harvest trees, the next crop of trees will have a smaller yield. This is because the nutrients that are used to grow the trees are not replenished for the next crop.

    It is my understanding that is what the Germans found out, however I can't find any citations to studies to back this up.

    Certainly, Black Wood is a better alternative than clearcutting old growth.........
     
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    "Something that those "renewable resources" folks seem to ignore is that every time you harvest trees.."

    Wow I wonder if that happens with other plants like say corn or tobacco?
     
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    Norlin SG Well-Known Member

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    Neither one are pitched as "renewable resources" and really they aren't. They are grown by artificial means with a a bunch of chemicals. Excuse me while I go put on my tin foil hat........
     

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