Coil splitting,useful or not?

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Do you use the coil splitter?

  1. yes

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  2. rarely

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  3. not at all

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  1. Layne Matz

    Layne Matz Well-Known Member

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    I think the ones in my g400 pro sound great as does the JB Trembucker in my Cort, both havr 50s style wiring. The trembucker sounds like a very hot single when split.
     
  2. Chuteboxehero

    Chuteboxehero Well-Known Member

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    After several days of experimenting I've found what to my ears is the best option for this HSS Strat style setup. Starting with the neck single coil and disregarding suggested height measurements, i set the neck and middle S/C to their optimum height based solely on tone and even output between the 2. That took care of the 5, 4 and 3 positions on the 5 way. Then with the bridge humbucker split, found that same sweet spot and balanced the output pretty well between all 3. Now it has a pretty standard Strat sound in position 1 and 2. If I want a considerable boost in volume and a fat tone, I can switch the bridge pickup back to humbucker mode which is kind of like having Clapton Strat with the built in Db boost. Now I just have to figure out how to play with a middle pick up that always feels like it's in the way....
     
  3. Kraftybob

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    For me it depends on the guitar. I wouldn't coil split a Humbucker type guitar (LP, SG, etc.), but I do coil split my Strat. I converted it from a SSS to HSS and coil split the humbucker in one of two ways: Push/push pot while in position 1 to give me single coil or humbucker, and when I switch to position 2 it automatically splits the humbucker so it's single coil bridge and middle pickup so I get that Strat "quack".

    Someone mention series/parallel and this I have on my PRS. Very happy with this setup as well.
     
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  5. Norton

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    If you want something interesting and useful, go with having your coils in the pickup on a switch to go between series/parallel.

    Filtertrons have their coils wired like this.

    And any 4 wire humbucker can pull off the series/parallel sonic vibe. But you’ve got to purpose build a good sounding split coil humbucker.
     
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  6. axemanv90

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    You bet. With a few mods, I got my SGZs sounding very close to a Strat. Use it a lot. A no-load tone pot or rotary tone switch with an "off" position helps a lot.

    One trick you can try: Instead of splitting the pickup direct to ground, you can use a 1K - 4K resistor from the coil split to ground. This energizes the 2nd coil a small amount, widens the magnetic field, fattens it a little and increases the output. A good place to start is 1K on the neck pup and 2k on the bridge pup. Lower output pups might need higher resistance and vice versa.
     
  7. rocknrollmouse

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    Never use the coil split on my guitars that have it, tried it but it does nothing for my ears. On my re-wires a series/parallel push/pull is almost my standard, many a happy spent playing with the parallel sound.
     
  8. smitty_p

    smitty_p Well-Known Member

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    I use coil splitting a fair amount. In fact, I modified two guitars to have the capability.

    Of course, one who is expecting a Strat sound will be disappointed, as a split humbucker doesn’t really sound like that, without further tweaking. It’s sort of in the territory, but it’s definitely not the same. It’s a little smoother.

    I use a split humbucker played cleanly for quieter portions of song if I want a lighter, airier sound. I’ll usually use a split neck pickup. I rarely use a split bridge pickup on its own. If I use it, I usually blend it with the neck.
     
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  9. SG standard

    SG standard Well-Known Member

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    I do use coil splitting, though I agree it's better on some pick ups than others. I'd say it's not great on Classic '57s, but still useful - especially when combining pickups with one split. Definitely worth having as far as I'm concerned. (But I hate the push/pull knobs - push/push are much more sensible, or even better, use a switch! Pulling a pot up while holding a pick... crazy idea).

    Having said that, none of my Reverends have coil splitting, but they do have a bass tone control and that's much more useful and effective. I really can't fathom why these haven't been fitted to guitars since the 50s - who on earth thought guitarists would want to cut treble but not bass? Rolling off bass can help a guitar cut through better than bringing up it's volume. I'm sure many recorded guitar sounds have had their bass cut on the mixing desk... :)

    In particular, my Spacehawk with out of phase switching as well as a bass contour control is the most versatile guitar I currently own.
     
  10. Norton

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    If you want a somethinglike a single coil sound... TRY the parallel coil wiring thing .

    It’s a far better sound than just killing a coil in a dual coil pickup.

    It’s a very single coil vibe but is using the other coil instead of pretending it’s not there.
     
  11. Logan

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    Recently got a Charvel DK24HH (Jackson Dinky Body, Charvel Neck, Gotoh 510, Seymour Duncan APH-II in the neck, and Seymour Duncan Full Shred at the Bridge), and I really enjoy the parallel options on that way more than a “traditional” split coil. Most humbuckers, it seems, aren’t designed to have their coils split, and it’s added in as an after thought, leaving a really weak, anemic sounding, single coil. PRS recently has started offsetting the coils in each side of their humbuckers that have the capacity to split, which in turn, makes for a great humbucker sound, and a great single coil sound.

    But, then again, when you have P-90s or a good PAF style, low output humbucker, why would you need to split them? Lots of high end in both of them that can get very strat-like when diming the treble on an amp.
     
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    I like using a Stratocaster to sound like a Stratocaster.:cool:
     
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