Confusing custom- what do I have?

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  1. Bking

    Bking New Member

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    Hi. I’m new to the forum and really enjoying reading & learning about these guitars. I bought my first SG and identifying exactly what it is is confusing me. It was refin’ed black over the original white long ago. The pot codes are 32nd week of ‘62 but the serial number suggests ‘63 or ‘64 (but seems to have been re-stamped, so who knows). That doesn’t seem right though, I thought the Les Paul badging was earlier. Bridge & neck pickups are original patent number stickers (nickel covers), the middle pickup is a replacement, I believe from a late-60’s Gibson (chrome cover).

    Two pots are replacements, but the originals were in the case. There appears to be a filled jack hole behind the knobs. I think it has lived an interesting life.

    It plays great and I love it, but what year was it built? Thanks!

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  2. Huntroll

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    It's good that you posted a picture of its wiring.
    It indicates a standard 2 pickup SG.
    The center pickups routing detail should show if its a factory 3 pickup SG or not.
    You would want to compare it to known examples to be sure.
    Then have Gibson verify it.
     
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  3. PermissionToLand

    PermissionToLand Well-Known Member

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    Trust the pots, serials were worthless back then. Factoring in production time, it was probably shipped to a dealer by late 1962.

    BTW, the truss rod cover is a replacement.
     
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    Gibbo SG Active Member

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    Yeah, the only thing wrong with that Black Beaty Fretkess Wonder is that it's not mine. Wowey Zowey, what a find! Play that in good health!
     
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    Colnago Active Member

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    I'm sorry, what were you asking?
    All I see is amazing looking SG.
     
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    papagayo Well-Known Member

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    Very nice Epiclone, congrats !

















    LOL
     
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    pedecamp Well-Known Member

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    I love it too, 63 or 64 is close enough, I'd just play it. :yesway:
     
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    If you remove the covers on the original pups, you might be able to see if they have the plain enamel (purple/brownish) wire or the copper/orange coloured one. If they have the plain enamel, it would suggest that they are late 1962/early 1963, if they have the copper one they are late 1963-1965.
     
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    Gahr Well-Known Member

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    1963 was the last year the SGs bore the Les Paul name, so it is definitely not a 1964
     
  10. Richard

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    looks like a leftover that is made from various parts from different years. SG customs mostly came in White/Gold. Black/Chrome can be rare or it can be an overspray.
    Pots are not from '62. They look like more recent parts with epoxy carriers. Chrome covers indicates that the pat.No pickups came from '64-65-66. The heat shrink on the cables indicates a replacement or repair.
    Neck pickup bezel seems to look non original, so is the truss rod cover. Bridge is an ABR bridge with wire, that indicates '63 or later. Knobs are missing the metal pointers. Gibson logo is not that sharp and clean....... Anyway, definitely not 100% original parts.
     
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    Wow, what a beautiful specimen. You are a lucky man, hope your enjoying it
     

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