Coronavirus (Covid-19) affecting you any?

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  1. Relic61

    Relic61 Well-Known Member

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    Sadly enough the truth about hydroxychloroquine is hard to discern due to it becoming politicized after President Trump touted it as showing potential in treatments in France. Ever since then the Trump hating media like CNN has unprecedentedly, repeatedly & intentionally gone out of their way to show this drug as dangerous, risky & ineffective.

    I will cite the recent claims of high percentage VA deaths that were used by media to portray hydroxychloroquine in a bad light. Then last Tuesday VA secretary Robert Wilke blasted the media for touting that very 'study' saying that, “That was not a VA study,” & it was never clinically reviewed or peer reviewed, nor were the various co-morbidities of the elderly patients included or considered. He also said this consisted of a high number patients that were hours from death when first given the drug as a last hope of recovery! And yet the media ran with it, politicized it because it could be used against Trump!

    WTF has the world come to when our 'News' agencies comport themselves like this? We simply can no longer take any one thing we see, hear or read as gospel truth anymore. Everything important needs multiple sources of information from a cross section of news from all sides.

    Bottom line as best as I can figure is that hydroxychloroquine has been an OTC drug for 65 years now & when dosed properly under the care of a physicians there is negligible risk & is as safe or safer than other OTC medication.

    It continues to amaze me how people continues to behave & react towards Trump. The politicization of this drug is just one easy to see example. As one person put it, "Some how hydroxychloroquine has become a political drug because Trump said it could help, silly simple fools.".

    If the media had simply not gotten hooked into another I gotcha battle with Trump & left any further mention of hydroxychloroquine alone most people would know little to nothing about this drug, never mind be able to pronounce it or try to spell it! And yet the media's behavior & persistent mentioning of it has made the drug a household name.

    I never cared for billionaire Trump but I got to say I hate seeing how the media & people opposed to him have chosen to act in response to him even more!
    What happened with 2+ years of Russia-gate alone should turn most fair / open-minded peoples stomachs or at least open their eyes to exactly what has been & still is happening here & get them to wake up to it & say that this is simply unacceptable from our media & our politicians.

    Hydroxychloroquine very well may or may not be effective on COVID 19, unfortunately it is going to take more than a story or two for me to believe ANYTHING printed by the media because life has shown they simply can NOT be trusted!
     
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    Whether there is or is not any increased risk in using an antimalarial drug is probably hard to gauge, but if it has been politicised, it is Trump himself who has done it. Unfortunately he has form in this regard with all the stuff about intravenous antiseptics. The sight of the medical team standing by in mute embarrassment was not one calculated to encourage. So my thought is that medical advice must come from qualified medical personnel, not politicians or their opponents in the press.
     
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    Barry, if I had malaria I'd take it. If I was a morbidly obese septuagenarian with a heart murmur, I wouldn't, but I take my medical advice from doctors, not my Russian godfather or my idiosyncratic son in law. It is the execrable executive who has politicized this by castrating the scientific component of the CDC and other federal agencies and is now trying to quash any independent oversight, like prisoners painting over the surveillance cameras.
     
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    Sales figures for the latest quarter have just been published in the UK. Supermarkets have reported their best ever three months of sales. Is the situation the same in other parts of the world? London looks like intensive social distancing (I mean we took it seriously at a personal level) has pretty much seen off Corona virus, but we haven't done yet. That final tail won't vanish without effort. New cases look like this

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    Of course evolution is weakening the virus all the time, and eventually it will become a symptomless part of the environment like so many before it.
     
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    That graph looks a lot like the graph I seen yesterday for Corona New Hospitalizations.

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    The graph for New Positive Tests had several large spikes due to various testing variables but the New Hospitalization graph gives a better reflection without too many variables messing up the graph.
     
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    Yes, the three day rolling average deals with the spikiness and the fact that (I believe) they get no data over weekends. But the overall shape is very familiar. The London figures are for all new cases. I believe it has been a while since anyone was hospitalised.
     
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    I hate to say I knew it but.. that medical journal The Lancet that published a study on Hydroxychloriquine suggesting studies showed it to be dangerous ended up retracting those statements after finding that the group Surgisphere, who published the study, was unreliable or BOGUS!

    The renowned New England Journal of Medicine also retracted a separate study that also relied on data from the same dubious source.

    I really wish people could understand the importance of controlling our reacting to things we instinctively don't like or want to believe because it confronts our established judgements, political opinion, personal preferences or beliefs.

    Currently there has been an overflow of people responding with a darkness that compels lying & and propagandizing of untruths because it supports their personal feelings & beliefs & makes them feel better.

    We've suffered through 3 years of people doing this $hit & it just seems like a grand waste of time & energy. Mow I can't help but wonder How many people actually may have died because of the negative politicization of this drug!??
    That's simply unacceptable & going too far!
     
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    Guess you need to be very careful, treading on thin ice..
     
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    I guess you're tough on the internet, but too lily-livered in real life to manage a wee guitar.
     
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    Not tough, just putting an incoherent old fool in his place every once in a while. You can stop being a jerk or you can deal with it buddy.
     
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    OH dang, written jabs and punches landed. The elder statesman counterpunches, as the guy with 26 posts, gets out the tude on the Old codger and goes for the knockout punch.
     
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    It proves TDS is far more dangerous to this country than the Wuhan Flu.
     
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    Apart from the PITA that life is these days and apart from getting laid off from a job with a big oil company that paid well into 6 figures after just 2 months because of the global panic that ensued over what is really just a nasty flu, not a jot.
     
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    tumblr_3a89d75684c946a9ac04287315b59f92_97396c2d_1280.jpg Lots of COVID jokes but I liked this one the best:

    Why was there a shortage of TP in March?

    Because if anyone sneezed everyone else within 100 yards soiled their pants.

    And this cartoon.
     
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    Hey buddy...are you finished watching child porn while jerking off in your mother's basement you sick fcuk? Go get a life junior and when you are ready to grow up and move out mommy's basement you can play with the big boys...fcuking man child!
     
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    Who the fcuk is this @SGfan84 goof? Just some internet looser who lives in Mommy's basement because he has no fcuking life....pretty much a waste of sperm who has developed into a little man child. This is how liitle unsupervised children act on adult forums. Grow the fcuk up!!
     
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    This fcuking goof has posted on my profile page and others...I say he or she (or both) should be BANNED from this forum! Who needs this SH!T!!!
     
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    @Logan & @SG standard as I can see you like this goof's post....FCUK BOTH OF YOU ALSO!!! ASSHOLES!!!


    Logan is short for LOOGAN...worser than being called a fcuking GOOF!!!
     
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