Cracked/Broken Headstock

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  1. Dewesq

    Dewesq New Member

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    So another of my shop built has a not quite detached broken headstock thanks to my ex-wife. I'm lookong for advice on how to best repair it. I emailed Dan Erlewine who was nice enough to respond suggesting hot hide glue over Titebond or liquid hide glue. What do you folks think? Photo attached. Also attached IMG_20161130_171223-01-1444x1058.jpeg is a pic of the ax itself.
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    That sucks man. I can't help you though
     
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    Sympathy helps. Thanks.
     
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    Did Dan point you at his video on headstock repair? It is about as good a piece of advice as you will find.

     
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    He has awesome books and videos! I own the books. Many videos are on Youtube.
     
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    I would go with Dan's advice, but I used Titebond to fix the broken headstock on my SG many years ago. It's still going strong.
     
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    Yep, regular yellow wood glue is the ticket. Glue and clamp firmly for 24 hours.
    Yours is the easiest since it is still attached, so not much alignment to be adjusted.
     
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    BTW, here's a pic of my repair on my SG. The arrow points to the actual joint. The other lines that look like cracks are just finish checking that really show up with the camera flash.

    You'll also notice it has a volute. So much for the idea that volutes prevent headstock breaks!

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    He did not, but I was familiar with it already.
     
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    Very nicely done!

    Yeah. In addition to not having a volute, when your ex-wife puts your guitar on the concrete driveway without a case and piles a bunch of heavy stuff on it, obviously not gently, I'm not sure anything could stand up to that.
     
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    I consider him my mentor in luthiery, even though we never met. I still have a large collection of StewMac catelogs with his and Don McRostie's Tips &Tricks columns from 25 years ago. I have shop made versions of several of his tools and jigs.
     
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    Yeah. I got lucky there. The sad truth is that this happened over 10 years ago and I was devastated. In my mind's eye it was much worse and the guitar was hopeless. I put it in a corner of my basement and forgot about it. Recently I dug it out and found out, to my surprise, it's not so bad. I put a clamp on it dry and it seemed to close up right fairly easily.
     
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    Yes. I asked Dan Erlewine his suggestion between liquid hide glue and aliphatic and he said, "Neither. Hot hide glue."
     
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    In fact, here is exactly what he said:.

    "David: I would used fresh made hot hide glue first; industrial epoxy second. Not aliphatic and not bottled hide. Thanks, Dan”
     
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    Dan's the Man... :yesway:
     
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    $.02 of Elmer's wood glue, clamped to dry overnight.
     
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    Original pics gone, go to page 3 of following link to see them.

    Used Maybe $.20 of Elmers Wood Glue in my thread I will post where I fixed my buddy's EPI Dot.

    A pro Luthier replaced my Tusq nut install and put a bone nut in and set it up for my buddy. He found no major flaws in my reattachment. The guitar is still going strong since March 2014 when I fixed it.

    View thread to the end to see pics I posted to replace the deleted ones.

    http://www.everythingsg.com/threads/restored-epi-dot-deserves-its-own-thread.22817/
     
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