DiMarzio Super Distortion + PAF Pro

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  1. MetalSG

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    Finally, after months trying to figure out a good pickup combination for my bolt on LTD Eclipse, I asked a guitar tech and he recommended me this pairing. As far as I know, it’s a popular one for bolt on neck guitars. They are the stock pickups in the current Charvel USA line. By Wednesday I should pick up my guitar. Can’t wait to hear how the new pickups sound!.
     
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    Hope you enjoy your new pickups. I highly rate the Dimarzios in my SG.
     
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    Thanks. I was about to pull the trigger for the Evolution in the bridge position, and the tech told me that it might be a bit to bright for bolt on guitars. I once installed a D Activator in the bridge position of an alder body, bolt on maple neck guitar. Maybe it was the amp I had, but it was a bit too bright for my taste. So I decided to go for the Super Distortion. Two more days and I’ll be able to tell:D.
     
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    I have to say that it is impossible to know beforehand. There are no pickups that sound good or bad, just different and especially considering what you are pairing it with. I’ve tried the super distortion as a bridge pickup in a Les Paul, a super strat and in two SGs. It sounds amazing in one of the SGs, but I didn’t like it in any of the other guitars. Sometimes it depends on obvious pickup-related reasons like the eq and output, sometimes the guitar is lacking something making the combination sound bland and dull. Sometimes is sounds awesome with one pedal-/amp combination and awful with others.

    The SD is quite bass- and mid heavy. It needs to be paired with something dry. A Les Paul can some times have to much base if you don’t EQ your amp right. My best sound is a very snappy sounding and light SG, with the SD, using a treble booster into a slightly darker amp, and maybe with a little analog slapback delay. Also, I play with the tone control a bit turned down. You get that dry 70s Judas Priest tone!
     
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    I will be able to tell soon. My guitar is made of Basswood, and the DiMarzio pickup selector recommends it for that particular tonewood. Gilbert, Satriani and Vai have all used PAF Pros in bolt on Basswood guitars, so it shouldn’t be a problem.
     
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    I don't find the SD that bass heavy? I find it has treble for days (but maybe that's just my perception)! I have one in a korina Explorer and one in an alder Strat with maple neck at the moment...They both seem to have tons of treble and as much bass as a bridge pickup typically has...
     
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    Indeed, but it’s not a shrill one. I just got my guitar today. And they do have mids!. Now I must look for better pots and capacitors. Any suggestions?.
     
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    Yeah I'm a huge fan of that pickup for sure!

    I'd go CTS or Bourns pots... and I like .033 caps POI (tubes) or the ones that look like chiclets (metal film caps), but that's not universal I imagine...
     
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    Thanks. Stew Mac sells a complete wiring kit with CTS and Switchcraft included. I could buy a 0.033 cap apart so I can decide if I like it better than the Orange drop 0.022 that comes with the kit
     
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    Yeah those kits are nice. In terms of the caps, most people like .022 or lower for humbuckers because it sweeps slower (lose less treble as you turn). For some reason though, I like .033... I never go lower than 5ish on the tone pot, but I find good tones with a .033. Not enough to swap them out on all my guitars, but if I'm doing a pickup change or a full on rewire I usually go ahead and do the caps too...
     
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    Ok. Here are pictures of the tone pot (with a green capacitor); the switch and the volume pot. I have no idea about them, other than they are 500 kohms. The capacitor should be 0.022, but it doesn’t say anything. I will change everything with CTS/Switchcraft/Orange drop
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    I've got that PU combo in an Epi Wilshire. They sound damn fine with 1 meg pots I put in and .022 caps
     
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    Compared to other high output pickups, maybe not (I find the 500T, the Invader or the JB to have more overpowering bass). But compared to the tamer pickups I usually use (PAF style, P90s..) I find them to have noticeable boosted bottom and low-mids and a bit of a treble cut.

    They're one of my all time favourite pickups!

    How are you liking the combo so far??

    As far as tone pots, if you don't use the bridge pickup tone (I never do), I would bypass it. I've had SuperDistortions like that in a couple of Gibsons and they were awesome sounding (theoretically, you got a little clarity and treble back once you remove the tone pot's load on the circuit, and I think it suits the SD).
     
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    I guess so... I wouldn't disagree with that. Its definitely not a thin bridge pickup like some PAF imitations. I don't hear a treble cut, but maybe that because of the guitars I put them in are bright to start with (SG, explorer, superstrat...)
     
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    Hey, I missed this message... did you have a question about the wiring or you were just showing us what was in there before you gutted it?
     
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    I love it!. There might be more “modern” sounding piclups, but I really love the combo. I’ve tried it in four different amps, and they sound terrific in all. The people who work at the guitar shop also noticed they are a huge improvement over the stock pups. And the SD has mids and bass to burn!. I always find myself dialing my amp’s shape knob in a slightly scooped setting. And I “tighten up” the bass a bit with a Boss SD1. Those Orange amps sound fat!.
     
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    No, these are original pots and capacitor that came stock, and I still have them. I might consider upgrading the rest of the circuit later on, but I’m afraid locking tuners might be more necessary in the short term.
     
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    I don't mind the full size alpha pots... They have a reputation, but I've never had one fail on me (unlike other sh*t asian pots...)..
     
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    They have more treble than I expected, for sure.
     
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    Make sure you use a linear pot in the tone circuit or you will be unhappy with how the tone works.

    Thankfully, Gibson gets it right.

    I have a replacement harness in my Peavey JF-1 and it uses log/audio pots for tone controls. Argh!

    Tom
     
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