Does This Look Right?

Torren61

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I bought this 1999 SG Supreme with P-90s. I took the cavity control cover off first and found this.

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Then, I pulled the P-90s to have a look at the back of them. Nowhere does it say "Gibson". Are these correct for this guitar?

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I figured the part glued to the control cavity plate is the stack for the neck pickup to make it hum cancelling. The bridge pickup is stacked under the bridge pickup.

What do you guys think?
 

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No. This is my second SG with P90s but I never opened up the first one and it's long gone. And I have these:

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No. This is my second SG with P90s but I never opened up the first one and it's long gone. And I have these:
Nice ! Don't expect the stacked pups to sound like a good P90. I had one and it was the most anemic pickup I've heard.

I am a Soapbar lover too :)

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Of course a stacked pickup is not going to sound like a single coil P-90. I get so tired of reading that same comment over and over by so many people online.

While some pickups can sound anemic,
the Kinman Hx in the bridge of my SG Classic is anything but that.

The Fralin Hum Canceling P-90 5% Overwind in my LP Junior DC sounds great to my ears.

Maybe not everyone who uses hum canceling P-90’s wants them to sound like single coil P-90’s. Maybe some folks use stacked pups so they don’t have to hack up a guitar by routing it for full size humbuckers.

I’ve never liked single coils at the bridge position of any guitar. Humbucker at the bridge for hi gain use and single coil P-90 at the neck for cleans is my favorite configuration.
 
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I have plenty of time to get to know the guitar and if the Gibson P90s don't cut it, there are PLENTY of good aftermarket ones to be had. I'm going to get her prepped and ready for her unveiling thread in a couple of days.

I appreciate the opinions. I've owned exactly three SGs before this one.
 

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I think you're right, @Torren61
Gibson probably couldn't fit the stacked P90 in the shallower route of the neck position, and had to relocate the coil to the control cavity. Sneaky! Have you seen how they routed underneath the pickguard of the Brian Ray '62 SG Junior for the "induction coil"?
 

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If you're interested, "Trogly" shows what the induction coil looks like while the guitar is on the bench at around the 7:19 mark.
 

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Of course a stacked pickup is not going to sound like a single coil P-90. I get so tired of reading that same comment over and over by so many people online.

While some pickups can sound anemic, the Kinman Hx in the bridge of my SG Classic is anything but that.
For someone to write that he bought a guitar with P90s that are not P90s, I just said that they aren't, just like you did. Maybe he didn't know ? If someone plays clean and wants the P90 chime, he'll be greatly desillusioned with the stacked pup.

I believe you when you say the Kinman and Fralin sound good, no doubt about it. As you could believe me that the Gibson one I tried sounded anemic.

:cheers:
 
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Of course a stacked pickup is not going to sound like a single coil P-90. I get so tired of reading that same comment over and over by so many people online.

While some pickups can sound anemic,
the Kinman Hx in the bridge of my SG Classic is anything but that.

The Fralin Hum Canceling P-90 5% Overwind in my LP Junior DC sounds great to my ears.

Maybe not everyone who uses hum canceling P-90’s wants them to sound like single coil P-90’s. Maybe some folks use stacked pups so they don’t have to hack up a guitar by routing it for full size humbuckers.

I’ve never liked single coils at the bridge position of any guitar. Humbucker at the bridge for hi gain use and single coil P-90 at the neck for cleans is my favorite configuration.


WOW, Thanks for that, talked me right out of the STACKED P-up I had been considering. What I had heard elsewhere was that the STACKED P-Up would take care of what I wanted, BUT I kinda didnt believe it as the bottom of the pickup is too far away (at least that is what I figured without actually knowing and never actually hearing.)....itssa long story, w/Mini-Hummers involved, and not for this thread BUT...your comment was what I needed to see to just forget about a STACKED Pick-Up.

Good info is not always readily available. From Cars to Guitars and all else between.. its one reason I wait for GIBSON guitars to show up with what I want in them so as to not have to DIY and maybe screw it up or buy something that is going to be a waste of Time/$$$.
 

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If you're interested, "Trogly" shows what the induction coil looks like while the guitar is on the bench at around the 7:19 mark.


I considered getting one of those Brian Ray SG's, but not now, TNX ! There is some sort of Ebony block on the top of that axe ? and it has a convertible bridge or Stop-tail ???..... IDK who Trogly is or where to find him/her/whatev, but Trogly gets Ref'd here quite a bit...gotta do a search...
 

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I considered getting one of those Brian Ray SG's, but not now, TNX ! There is some sort of Ebony block on the top of that axe ? and it has a convertible bridge or Stop-tail ???..... IDK who Trogly is or where to find him/her/whatev, but Trogly gets Ref'd here quite a bit...gotta do a search...
Trogly is a Buyer/Seller/Trader of guitars. He “specializes” in Gibsons, and has a personal site in addition (I believe) to a Reverb.com shop.
The ebony block is a tip of the cap to some SG Standards from the early ‘60s, before the long Maestro Vibrola was introduced.
 


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