Dumb and getting dumber.

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  1. Biddlin

    Biddlin Well-Known Member

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    I thought it was just a symptom of my own aging. I have felt for sometime that everyone was getting dumber, especially millennials, who tend to answer most questions,"Whatever."
    After a little research, my fear was unhappily confirmed. While some attribute the general decline in IQ scores world wide to social conditions or the effect of 24/7 information overload, some serious research seems to indicate that evolution prefers other qualities to intelligence. While certainly it is too early to draw hard and fast conclusions from the research, the fact is that while information and education are available to more people than ever before, IQ scores continue to drop.
    I try to keep an open mind. Maybe the decline has nothing to do with genetic changes. Maybe kids aren't getting enough play time, to develop creativity and the regimented curriculum of the modern school system is cramping their intellect. Maybe all the processed food and sugar is affecting their mental capacity. Maybe all of the above.
    Whatever the cause(s), the effects are made more obvious each day: people taking infant and child vaccination advice from talk show hosts and soft porn stars, cash registers with pictures of products on the keys, instead of numbers, shoes that tie themselves, election results etc. etc. ad infinitum.
    I must now pay a small homage to a predecessor, an uncle, who was a most successful conman. He told me a half century ago, "The Lord wouldn't have made so many sheep, if he didn't want them sheared." Maybe he was right.
     
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  2. donepearce

    donepearce Well-Known Member

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    You are so right. There is no doubt that evolution currently does not favour intelligence. If you want to know which way evolution is headed, just consider who is having most babies. One thing is for certain - it ain't the smart ones.
     
  3. chilipeppermaniac

    chilipeppermaniac Well-Known Member

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    Bidlin, I am just a dumb college grad that took up carpentry 30 years ago and never made any children. Does that count?
     
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    No.
    Your analysis is way too complicated.

    Here's the actual deal:
    When life was created or evolved, whichever you prefer, it had a certain
    amount of intelligence. That very first organism was so smart it figured
    out how to replicate or duplicate itself. The only catch was that its "smart"
    got split in half when it replicated. That little issue was never resolved and
    now there are uncountable astronomically high numbers of life forms here.
    They all came from the original supersupergenius organism and each has
    a very small nanosubdivision of that original great intellect. The more life
    forms, the smaller each individual intellect.

    Simple math.
     
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  5. Kep

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    I wish this were not true but I think it is.

    My youngest offspring is 15. Last week she told me " you have no idea how stupid people my age are.." and then cited some sad examples.

    I blame some of the societal trends that appeared in the early 2000's
     
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    I choose to assume you are joking. There is no intelligence or purpose in evolution, and nothing gets subdivided. It is an undirected process that hangs on one thing, and one thing only. Changes (or mutations) in the molecule structure that tend to result in a greater number of the molecules being produced will be selectively preferred in the long term. That is it - the whole of evolution. The preferential production may come about either through the change itself being beneficial, or the environment changing to make the current molecule better at reproducing.

    Avoid like the plague any book that uses language that implies preference, or a goal. Evolution is not a ladder to a destination. It is just a series of events, some of which produce lifeforms that are apparently more advanced. Random mutations coupled with non-random survival is the name of the game.
     
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    plus now days instead of doing things your self TV adds show everyone talking to and asking this round device they call Google to do things for them,WTF. Google turn on the lights
     
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    chilipeppermaniac Well-Known Member

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    As for me,,,,,,, I am still learning stuff plus am way more street smart than when I was in the hands of the educators who's job it was to educate me. In addition despite my fleeting days on earth, I still soak up info like electronics, the study of brains, computer stuff, music, and other fascinating general knowledge as if I had that childlike sponge our brains supposedly start out as in our developmental years.
     
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    Great isn't it? I'm 66, and just recently I've had to learn two new major engineering software systems, Agilent Vee for instrument control and data logging and Solidworks for mechanical design. Keeping on learning exercises the learning muscles (or whatever) and makes further learning easier. Somehow there is still room for new stuff in the old grey matter.
     
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    Firstly, IQ scores have historically increased with each generation, to a degree that anyone who took the first IQ test & achieved an average score would today be considered to be on the edge of being mentally retarded. One explanation for this is that we are now 'thinking differently'.

    Secondly, human evolution works on such a slow time scale that the time since the first IQ test until today is barely a heartbeat. Evolutionary psychologists suggest that a baby taken from a hunter gatherer society & brought into the present time would grow up perfectly able to fit into modern society. Changes witnessed within a life time would be down to other factors, e.g. socio-cultural changes - these can inevitably be absorbed within the existing human physiology.

    Don is right - evolution doesn't have a 'preference' nor does it 'design' - however, certain things can be shown to be more successful in an evolutionary process, such as not seeing reality quite how it is... It's far better to see the salient bits and not the whole lot!
     
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    We shall now rename you Sponge Brain
     
  12. chilipeppermaniac

    chilipeppermaniac Well-Known Member

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    LOL drB, I will take that from you since you make beautiful art.
     
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    it's the result of becoming process oriented instead of results oriented... i deal with the public kindergarten on up & many times someone who displays logic & awareness of their surroundings have low school grades & people with excellent grades are thicker than a rock... school favors graphic memory over comprehension... everyone gets a trophy...

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    Yup.
     
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    It's been cloudy for ... weeks here. I'm too depressed to follow this thread. I need light therapy.

    I have to say this is what's playing in my studio right now. Musn't help ...

     
  16. WavMixer

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    Well let me put my tin foil hat on and ponder this... :hmm: BTW, I do not use floridated toothpaste, nor do I drink tap water.
    http://rense.com/general79/hd3.htm

    The following letter was received by the Lee Foundation for Nutritional Research, Milwaukee Wisconsin, on 2 October 1954, from Mr. Charles Perkins, a chemist:

    "I have your letter of September 29 asking for further documentation regarding a statement made in my book, The Truth About Water Fluoridation, to the effect that the idea of water fluoridation was brought to England from Russia by the Russian Communist Kreminoff. "In the 1930`s, Hitler and the German Nazi`s envisioned a world to be dominated and controlled by a Nazi philosophy of pan-Germanism. The German chemists worked out a very ingenious and far-reaching plan of mass-control which was submitted to and adopted by the German General Staff. This plan was to control the population in any given area through mass medication of drinking water supplies. By this method they could control the population in whole areas, reduce population by water medication that would produce sterility in women, and so on. In this scheme of mass-control, sodium fluoride occupied a prominent place. ...

    "Repeated doses of infinitesimal amounts of fluoride will in time reduce an individual`s power to resist domination, by slowly poisoning and narcotizing a certain area of the brain, thus making him submissive to the will of those who wish to govern him. [A convenient light lobotomy]

    "The real reason behind water fluoridation is not to benefit children`s teeth. If this were the real reason there are many ways in which it could be done that are much easier, cheaper, and far more effective. The real purpose behind water fluoridation is to reduce the resistance of the masses to domination and control and loss of liberty.

    "When the Nazis under Hitler decided to go into Poland, both the German General Staff and the Russian General Staff exchanged scientific and military ideas, plans, and personnel, and the scheme of mass control through water medication was seized upon by the Russian Communists because it fitted ideally into their plan to communize the world. ...

    "I was told of this entire scheme by a German chemist who was an official of the great IG Farben chemical industries and was also prominent in the Nazi movement at the time. I say this with all the earnestness and sincerity of a scientist who has spent nearly 20 years` research into the chemistry, biochemistry, physiology and pathology of fluorine--any person who drinks artificially fluorinated water for a period of one year or more will never again be the same person mentally or physically." CHARLES E. PERKINS, Chemist, 2 October 1954.
     
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    I think my 4 kids are educated but in a different way. I have a more comprehensive well rounded education. World keeps getting stranger every day.
     
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    chilipeppermaniac Well-Known Member

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    Getting smarter every day

     
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    I don't think tinfoil is going to help much. That just goes to show that a doctorate is no guarantee of intelligence especially in a paranoid schizophrenic. Exactly the same problem afflicts Dr. Stephen Greer. You have to feel sorry for the poor chap - almost as much as you want to kick the cr*p out of his stupid audience.

     
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    chilipeppermaniac Well-Known Member

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    And Proof of Bid's statement came a little over 30 years ago,,,,,,,,,

     
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