Ebony fingerboards and stock pickups

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  1. foghorn

    foghorn New Member

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    After owning 4 SG's in my life and selling them all, I once again have a hankering to own one. Of the 4, 2 had ebony fingerboards...A '73 Standard and one of those tomato soup "Platinum" Guitar Center specials. That was actually my favorite SG of all but it developed a bad neck crack so Gibson replaced it with 2008 (I think) Standard. The other one I owned was a '61 reissue. The '61 reissue and '08 Standard had rosewood fingerboards and I never really was in love with either of those guitars. Also the '61 reissue had a thin neck and I like a thicker (medium to "baseball bat") neck. The only reason I sold the '73 (my first) was the narrow nut width - that bugged me.

    What I'm finding is ebony fingerboards seem quite hard to find. Are there certain years or models I can look for that had ebony so I can make my search a bit easier? Not an absolute "must" but definitely prefer the feel.

    2nd question- Pickups: All of these SG's I owned were stock. Once again, to me the '73 and the Platinum had more crunch and grit, the other 2 just seemed a bit more feeble in the pup dept. I don't know based on this info if anyone could point me to years/models with what I might gravitate towards? I see what seems like a million Standards with rosewood fingerboards, I'd still consider a new '61 but the neck size worries me. One last point...I've pondered the P90's but I'm so used to humbuckers in an SG I don't know if I could switch (plus my main guitar now is a Ritchie Kotzen Tele and even with one humbucker in the bridge I can get all kinds of single coil sounds out of it).

    Anyhow sorry for the long post just looking for some possible search pointers!
     
  2. SGBreadfan

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    My 2010 Standard (avatar) was a Guitar Center exclusive run with an ebony board, Burstbucker 1&3, coil splits. I think they were limited to 200 total? Probably tough to find nowadays…the ebony board imparts some extra snap which I love.
     
  3. cerebral gasket

    cerebral gasket Well-Known Member

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    2002-2004 SG Special Faded

    Thicker Rounded Neck
    Ebony Board

    I had a few in the past.

    2003 SG Special Faded

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    2003 SG Special Faded

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    2004 SG Special Faded

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    My all time favorite SG is the SG Classic.
    I keep the stock P-90's at the neck position for cleans and installed a Kinman Hx Nasty 90 Heavy at the bridge position for hi gain use without 60 cycle hum. It growls like a Humbucker.

    These also have nice rounded necks.

    2004 SG Classic
    Thickness at 1st Fret: 0.845"
    Thickness at 12th Fret: 0.100"

    2006 SG Classic
    Thickness at 1st Fret: 0.825"
    Thickness at 12th Fret: 0.975"

    left: 2004 SG Classic
    right: 2006 SG Classic

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  4. Torren61

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    Supremes, Firebrands
     
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    cerebral gasket Well-Known Member

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    1979 "The SG".
     
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  6. foghorn

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    Great suggestions, thanks all! I've got a couple of these suggested ones bookmarked on Ebay/Reverb, still mulling things over (and I sadly have to sell my D-35 before I take the dive haha).

    I recall trying a few faded's right about the time I bought the Platinum (2004) in Guitar Center and I didn't take to them. I can't recall exactly "what" it was, except it was more "feel", not "sound". I know they were "inexpensive" (comparitively speaking) but other than the finish (or lack thereof) I'm not sure what would have made them feel a bit different. Been a long time.

    Having said that, those faded ones you have pictured cerebral are awesome and have a nicer "hue" to them the ones I recall trying did. The moon crescent is cool, I'd be fine (in fact I prefer) dots to anything else (not a biggie though). I dunno.... love that yellow faded too! Subtly different without being obnoxious, VERY nice! Will check into the Classics. Great pics.

    I'm still up in the air on P90's. Part of me is tempted to go for it. More irony, growing up in the 70's one of my "guitar idols" was Townshend...I knew he played an SG frequently but did't know he used P90's. I always could replicate his sound real well with humbuckers so I just assumed that's what he had too.

    More searcihng....any more tips throw them out there. Thx.
     
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  7. Torren61

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    You would adapt...

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    NICE ! Now there is a beauty ! Those In-Lays do not come around all that often. Ebony Fret-Board ? If so, for me, Winner Winner Lobster Dinner ! I had a line on an SG Supreme or Supra w/Split MOP Parallogramers(?) recently....Frikkin Awesome lookin Guitar w/split/tapped '57's, wanted to buy it, was hopin' it had an Ebony board and asked the Guy...... then came the 'No, its Richlite'. Dang !.......click.
     
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  9. Torren61

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    The later reissues are Richlite. The original Supremes use ebony for the fretboard. Here's the neck specs on my '99 Supreme:

    Neck:

    • 1-pc quartersawn Honduran Mahogany
    • Set-in construction
      • 3 degree angle
      • Titebond glue
      • '61 Reissue style heel
    • Joins body at 22nd fret
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      Trans Black

    • Slim Taper profile (.795/.890")
    • Ebony fretboard
      • Mother of Pearl split diamond inlays
      • 12" radius
    • Large Open Book headstock
      • Resin impregnated fiberboard veneer
      • Inlaid Mother of Pearl Gibson logo
        • Classic font style
      • Inlaid Mother of Pearl split diamond
      • "Made in U.S.A." stamp
      • 17o pitch
    • 24 frets
    • [​IMG]
      Lavaburst (2000)

      24 9/16" scale
    • 1 11/16" nut width
     
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    SWEET, GIBSON wasnt kidding when they said its a 'Slim-Taper', yes? IDK why but I cant see the latest pics...That is one ROCKIN' SG...must be nice !Stock P-90's? I would usually put a Pick-Guard on an SG like that one BUT that BURST actually looks too good to cover.GIBSON sure named that model right.
     
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    papagayo Well-Known Member

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    My 2012 SG Standard Ltd Edition has an ebony fretboard, neck profile is medium C,

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    The Blue SG Supreme is a fantastic SG (2004)

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  12. Torren61

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    I had a 2001 Midnight Burst just like that one. I would have kept it if I had known how to set up a guitar. Bad neck dive though.
     
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    papagayo Well-Known Member

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    The SG Supreme with heavy Grover tuners has neck dive issue, and the SG Supreme is made like a '61 RI, (light body). With Gibson Deluxe or Kluson REVOLUTION tuners the SG is well balanced.
     
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    Wow that is one fantastic looking SG! I want one!
     
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    Thanks, Steve!
     
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    I'm not noticing much neck dive with locking mini Grovers either.

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    I was talking about your 2001 Midnight Burst.
     
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    My new addition thanks to my wife on our 25th wedding anniversary.. 2008 Guitar of the Month Diablo.. 20210917_103217_resized.jpg
     
  19. foghorn

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    Do the Classics have more beefy necks than the current (say, 2016 - present) Standards?
     
  20. cerebral gasket

    cerebral gasket Well-Known Member

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    2016 specs are:

    Thickness at 1st fret: 0.818"
    Thickness at 12th fret: 0.963"

    The amount of shoulder and shape also makes a difference how it feels. Some are more rounded than others. Two different guitars that are same model and year can vary since there is handwork involved in the final finishing process.
     
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