Discussion in 'Epiphone SG' started by DrBGood, Jan 11, 2020.
I'm like them all , above all I really like the HP , the Custom and the P90
i´m up for that special p90...
Nope, far from it. Those P90 Pro, if they are anything like the previous batch, can compete with the very best out there.
Apparently they’re dropping the made in USA casino now too. Pics from namm are floating around out there. They look stellar!
There's a whole range of semi-hollow and hollow body ones too.
Fast toward to about 17:00 for archtops.
Certainly worth trying them out.
Looking the same and being the same are different things... But, at this stage, the Epis are are looking very good. Really, I need to get one in my hands and see how the finish is (the satin finished may well be the better option, imho); certainly the new graphtech nuts are a great improvement, the tuners look better quality too, but we'll have to see...
I got the same pickups in a Lp sp and they were poor (but, pickup sounds are always subjective and many folks like them). I changed out the P90 pros and immediately had a far nicer sounding guitar, to my ears. Of course, you can do a lot with the amp settings too.
Those SG Muse colors are much nicer than in the washed-out stock photos. That blue one is wicked.
After visiting the website, I’m realizing the ‘61 SG uses ProBucker pickups and CTS pots. The ProBuckers are the best pups Epi has ever made. Aww man, now I can’t decide if I want to save up for the LP special, the LP junior, the worn SG special, or the ‘61 SG. There are too many incredible choices!
This might be a stupid question, so I apologize ahead of time.. Does the modern collection have cts pots or is it just the original collection?
Graghtech nut across the board too . Epiphone stepping up to the plate!
Anyone finding the p90 under $399?
I guess I mean the special, I have one in my cart....
Can I just also mention that I’m so glad that Epi is now referring to their products with the same names as their Gibson counterparts? No more “G400” crap. It’s an SG. Same with the 335.
This whole lineup indicates that Gibson is ready to up Epiphone’s game, not to mention listen to the players’ wishes.
It’s also nice to see the USA-made Casino and Texan. USA Wilshire one day? Come on. Make it happen, Epiphone. I probably can’t afford one but I still want to see it happen.
So what will now be the argumentation for naysayers that kept bashing that a G400 was not a real SG, but a copy ?
I think I have almost all of the naysayers on my ignore list
Definitely raising the level of competition between big G and Epiphone. If I'm asked for a recommendation fo a first SG, the Epiphone Special gets my nod.
They do look great, as does the Classic, but I'd still like to try one to out.
The 61s and Custom, from the specs on the Epiphone site, maybe have some better quality parts (such as pots), we will have to see. The main problems I've had with Epis I've bought have been: thick poly goop (looks like the Classic doesn't have that, and I'm hopeful that the Special poly is thinner than before. Having said that, Gibson apply their Nitro very thickly on the Specials...), crap nuts (looks like that problem is fixed with the Graphtech), poor tuners (often this is added to by the crap nuts... the tuners do look very similar to the tuners that come on the Gibson special; I'm optimistic that these tuners are decent; the Wilkinson button tuners on my Epi LP special are certainly better than the "inspired by Grover" that older Epis came with), below par bridges (Epiphone bridges have improved in the last few years, and my Gibson Special bridge is not very good...) and that's about it - the electronics on my recent $400 Epiphone are decent, no complaints.
So, like you, I'm thinking this Epiphone Special (and Classic for me due to the satin finish) could be the goto SG when before I would have said a secondhand Gibson SG faded.
I'm gonna get one of the Epiphone Specials and do a head to head with my Gibson Special, and I really doubt I'll be able to conclude anything other than the Epiphone is much better value for money. But, until we actual have them and try them out, it's hard to say.
But who knocks the Epiphone SGs? Only one or two folks, not many. Lots of Gibson fanboys (maybe me...) really love the old Epi '61 SG sp, the 2010 (and rare 2019) Epi LP sp, I love the Epi G310, the 1966 Epi G400s are great, all the Epi G400s made in Korea are excellent.
I really hope the new Epi '61 does not have the veneer because I love seeing the wood on any guitar; that could be a very nice way into a stylish '63/'64 Maestro SG.
The SG Classic is my favorite.
Does not matter what brand.
Technically, the SG Classic is an SG Special.
It's a reissue of a late 60's SG Special with batwing, but with TOM bridge and stop bar tailpiece in place of the Wraparound and Short Vibrola that was on the originals.
I'm guessing they gave it the moniker SG Classic to differentiate between the early 60's SG Special with small guard and late 60's SG Special with batwing. Either way, IMO, all SG are great guitars.
The price points are even good. I am absolutely shocked.
I mean...the only thing that would’ve been more surprising to me...would’ve been using the straight up Gibson headstock shape and/or moving a Gibson line to Korea or China.
Or maybe free guitars?
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