Fake Gibson SG Special 2004 ???

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  1. Rodus2908

    Rodus2908 New Member

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    Hi, I'm interested in buying this guitar. However, I'm not 100% sure it's an original Gibson. The seller told me he is 100% sure it's not a fake guitar even though he is not the first owner. Could someone confirm this?

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  2. Carrion

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    i find it strange there is no date in the stamp on back headstock ..

    here's my 2017 Faded ..

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  3. laza616

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    To me it looks legit
     
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  6. cerebral gasket

    cerebral gasket Well-Known Member

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    2004 SG Special Faded.
    It's legit, but not stock.

    I've had several of these in the past and still have a 2004.

    Pickups were either changed or covers added.
    Stock pickups are 490R / 490T uncovered.

    Knobs were changed to reflectors.

    The Nashville bridge is installed backwards.
    Screws should face the tailpiece.
    Flat side of saddles should face the nut.
    Notches should correspond to string size.

    Tuners were changed from Gibson Deluxe to Grover Rotomatics.

    No date stamp is correct for 2004.
    2008 was first year for date stamps.

    The serial number is stamped using the correct font and format. The 1st and 5th digits indicate the last two digits of the year.

    YDDDYPPP
    YY = Year
    DDD = Day of Year
    PPP = Production Number
     
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  7. Rodus2908

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    Thanks for the answers! The seller mentioned the Grover tuners, but according to him everything else is stock, even the knobs. I'm a little bit worried about a detail that can be seen in the third picture, that change in color under the headstock, could it be a sign of a lot of usage or maybe a repair? I know Gibsons are particullary delicate there. Thanks in advance.

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  8. cerebral gasket

    cerebral gasket Well-Known Member

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    2005 SG Special Faded (stock)

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    2005 SG Special Faded (modified)

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    2004 SG Special Faded (modified)

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    2004 SG Special Faded (refinished to gloss with grain filled)

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    2003 SG Special Faded (modified)

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    2003 SG Special Faded (modified)

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  9. Carrion

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    The White-ish grain filled looks so good . great job !!!
     
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    cerebral gasket Well-Known Member

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    The color on the refinish did not turn out as expected. Was supposed to be TV Yellow, but came back as Aged TV White. Was expecting TV Yellow like this...

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  11. everdying

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    just a sign of a well played guitar..
     
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    I double that

    Btw , NICE avatar to have there with that heartagram. Respect
     
  13. shreddy bender

    shreddy bender Well-Known Member

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    Looks legit. The neck just looks played in to me. The faded finish is very thin and will wear like that over time. If it looks like that it is a sign of a good playimg guitar to me!
    As for the reflector knobs, my 2003 Faded Crescent came stock with them. I changed mine to speed knobs as I am not really a fan of the reflectors.
     
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    Could be from a neopreen guitar stand/hanger. A lot of Gibsons from Guitar Center have that mark.
     

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