Flipping 'G' Saddles

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  1. Robert Herndon

    Robert Herndon Well-Known Member

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    Just curious....my fretted G is still slightly sharp on my 2016 Gibson SG and the saddle is all the way rearward. I looked at photos and it has been almost fully rearward since new.

    The sharpness is one red bar sharp on my Korg Pitchblack and I have checked neck relief (.010") and im using EB .009's with very low action of around 1.7mm. I am also conscious to not fret the notes sharp when testing. I can really hear it. I also tried a different (brand new) string with same results.

    So, I feel like the G saddle should be flipped. is this common??? I don't see a drawback...string slot looks like it would go either way...

    Also, look at the bridge. I don't see a wire retainer like my old Gibson's. What bridge is this???

    Thanks....
     

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    Thats a Nashville style bridge.flipping saddles is fairly common practice.if you look at the narrower ABR-1 bridges the EAD saddles are flipped from the factory. might be a sort of C style clip on your Nashville bridge to hold the screw in.i got one here ill look
     
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    ok if you look close underneath this Nashville bridge you can see a wire like retainer.this bridge is off a guitar with the allen head adjustment screws like yours.also notice the brand new Gotoh ABR-1 bridge,the GBE saddles are factory flipped 20161021_072401.jpeg
     
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    i have another ABR -1 bridge and 3 saddles are flipped.just not the way you need your G string saddle
     
  5. Robert Herndon

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    Nashville....got it. Does each screw have its own retainer? Or, is that one wire in the bottom?

    Flip all the g/b/e's?
     
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    On the Nashville bridge, saddles are not reversed, on ABR bridge, E and A saddles are reversed.




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    smitty_p Well-Known Member

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    If you flip the G saddle, you run the risk of causing an uncontrollable, cascading, inter-dimensional rift. Orcs from middle earth may invade our dimension.
     
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    Looks like one long retainer to me but once you take it off you can just flip the saddle you want.the ABR-1s are narrower so thats why 3 saddles are factory flipped
     
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    Gibson ABR-1 is narrower , 2 saddles are factory flipped (E and A).


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    if you loosen the strings enough you can lift the bridge off the stud posts with out taking the strings clear off.then take painters tape and kinda tape the stud posts so you dont loose your settings
     
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    Only bridge I can find local (today) is an ABR-1. Doesn't look that great! GRRRRR!
     
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    so why dont ya flip the G saddle on the bridge ya got ??
     
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    Nice new Gibby and needs work....LOL
     
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    Guess I could...was hoping I could find the wider Gotoh tune-o-matic here in SoCal....
     
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    FLIP DA G, FLIP DA G, FLIP DA G...
    Ju cun do wit... :thumb:
     
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    Robert Herndon Well-Known Member

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    I heard this funny "jangle" on the 'G' during mixdown on a client's project. I just grabbed my Schecter C1 Hellraiser and retracked it...

    Very pissed off I didn't hear it before....
     
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    Ok, 'G' I finna rise up an get my flip on...
     
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    im not so sure the Gotoh Nashville is any wider.maybe. long live the Harmonica bridge i guess
     
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    Luv those old harmonica bridges, intonation for days!!
     
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