Flipping 'G' Saddles

Discussion in 'Luthier's Corner' started by Robert Herndon, Oct 21, 2016.

  1. DPaulCustom

    DPaulCustom Active Member

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    I find it ridiculous that they would suggest someone else's product, to correct an issue that they have been aware of for EVER.
    If strings are 'pinging' the nut is improperly cut. A properly cut nut might not solve the problem totally, but it could help, along with flipping the saddle.
     
  2. Robert Herndon

    Robert Herndon Well-Known Member

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    I love how it sounds but I'm starting to hate it.
     
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    syscokid Well-Known Member

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    On the nuts G slot: Can you tell if the string is apexing at the fretboard edge of the nut, like it should? If the G string is "fretting" more towards the tuners, that would force the saddle to be intonated further from the nut.
     
  4. smitty_p

    smitty_p Well-Known Member

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    Just a thought...as I write this post, this thread is approximately five hours old.

    The saddle could have been flipped and intonated, by now.

    Seriously, flipping a saddle practically par for the course.

    I don't mean to sound smart-alecky, but this really is not a big deal.
     
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  5. Robert Herndon

    Robert Herndon Well-Known Member

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    I'm officially pissed off.

    My Schecter C1 Hellraiser is perfectly intonated and I never have to compensate anything....fretted, open or harmonic.

    I love how the Gibby sounds but I think I'm done with it.
     
  6. Robert Herndon

    Robert Herndon Well-Known Member

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    True, but I won't be be able to flip it until tonight....
     
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    Well, it is a 3 page deal, getting pretty big as we write !
     
  8. Robert Herndon

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    Point is i play for hire and while anything can be fixed, it seems ridiculous to have to correct issues on a new instrument. I didn't mind dropping $90 on the Faber tailpiece, that was a tonal preference issue, but an intonation anomaly that I can hear is just unacceptable.
     
  9. smitty_p

    smitty_p Well-Known Member

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    That's my guess.
     
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  10. Robert Herndon

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    Well, i can't mess with it anymore today. I have to play tonight. I will use the Hellraiser..... IMG_20160929_48620.jpg
     
  11. Robert Herndon

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    Funny the Schecter saddles are almost aligned all the way across.... IMG_20161006_16713.jpg
     
  12. eS.G.

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    Send to me ---- I will spend a few dozen years flogging the Hell out of it and send it back----all "reliced and stuff" ;) HEY Im a giver......NO CHARGE fyi!
     
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  13. Robert Herndon

    Robert Herndon Well-Known Member

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    LOL!!!

    I just might!!!!

    You know, sorry to say this, but other than the tone (which is really, really good) the Schecter beats it in almost every other respect....
     
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    eS.G. Well-Known Member

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    Well Robert,,,,,,,its a bitter pill for some to swallow----but GIBSONS are not the end all indisputable pinnacle of perfection blindly followed by some---- there ARE better guitars......there are worse...... its all in what YOU like ----sometimes on a given day ;) lol
     
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    Robert Herndon Well-Known Member

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    I'm thinking outloud here...

    For 10 years I played my Schecter C1..neck-through/string/through, perfect intonation, no tuning issues...why did I change...because I missed my 1968 SG I sold in 1997.

    The DSL40C was a good purchase...the 90 watt Creamback made a big difference in the amp's tone.
     
  16. Robert Herndon

    Robert Herndon Well-Known Member

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    Well,

    I know I am a stickler for accurate tuning...my ear...it hears every nuance....it's maddening!!!!
     
  17. eS.G.

    eS.G. Well-Known Member

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    my ear mostly hears "HEY, your rum glass is empty" ......other wise its a boom boom bada boom boom ;)
     
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    Oooh eeesh ..... I seriously hope it's not that. Those Corian nuts are epoxied in SOLID to the point that they are a Stone Cold Steve Austin P.I.T.A. to replace.



    This is one of those things that make me glad I bought the "cheap copy".

    Agreed, but if they rejiggered it (nut / tuner positions) to work properly the cork sniffers would mess their pants to the point of turning themselves inside out. That said, Tusq XL nuts are a wonderful stop gap.
     
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    BUWAHHAHHAHHHHA
    did you SAY "nut files" with a straight face------really? COme on---really?
     

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