Fretboard binding nitro finish crack and flaking

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  1. Trypta

    Trypta New Member

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    I have this 2007 SG, the fretboard binding finish seems to flake. How should i repair this, or should i just leave it? Anyone has the same problem?
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    1. I wouldn't "repair" it. It's worse than I'd expect, but doesn't effect playability and a repair won't help the value.

    2. Just for S&G, how and where do you store the guitar? Do you live in a very humid climate? Do you clean it? If so, how? What products have you used on this guitar?

    There is tons of corrosion on the hardware in addition to the binding and inlay flaking. The guitar is only 12 years old, it shouldn't look like that. I'm thinking it may be related to care and storage.
     
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  5. Trypta

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    I used to live in a bali near the beach, it can be humid on rainy days and hot, the guitar was stored in its case in one of the room in the villa. It was on its case for quite a time. Do u think the fret will split from the neck? The body is still in pristine condition though.
     
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    Im gonna say the damage is done, it will be very costly to have that repaired, either play it and ignore it or if it really bothers you sell it and get another one.
     
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    I believe you should play this instrument as it is...
    Trying to "repair" it will be a can of worms.

    Since you spent much time in a tropical country, I would give this guitar
    a tropical name and keep the look as mojo.

    Or sell it if the look bothers you. But I'm old now, and I've got lots of
    marks on me from the places I have lived, and played. I earned them all
    (or most of them) and they have added to my performance when I play.

    Guitars can be like that, if you allow the concept. I played most of my career
    with guitars I bought used, so the idea of a pristine guitar never occurred to
    me. I saw them in stores, but couldn't afford them, so I looked at them the
    way I looked at women in magazines. Pretty, but out of reach.

    Because I played so long and so effectively with guitars that had scratches, dents,
    finish wear, repaired damage, and weather cracks, when I read posts by guys who
    have purchased a new guitar and immediately find fault with it, and complain
    about tiny flaws, I don't understand what is wrong with the owner.

    None of that stuff is important. When you get out onstage, no one can see that
    the finish has a problem, or if they do, they are reminded of some big stars who
    play road worn guitars. The only thing that matters is the music you can make
    with the instrument.

    So if the cosmetics irritate you, just sell it to someone who doesn't feel that way
    and move on. If the guitar plays and feels right, cherish it as well as you can,
    protect it from further damage, and let it give voice to your music.
     
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    Especially when you sell it. As the sinistral pedecamp misstates the wear has already occurred. Many folks destroy the collectible value as well as the used desirability by "repairing "wear." Keep it cleaned and put a quality polish like Gibson on it once a year or so. Salt air and humidity can do that sort of thing in a short time.
     
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    I love the way you put it in words and to be personal with the instrument, im gonna start pondering a tropical name for her i dont mind about imperfection on the guitar, i was saying the body is pristine as it compared to the neck, headstock and hardware that was damaged.. im thinking if the repair would prevent further flaking by filling the fallen spot.. and i love relic guitar, its just it happen to flake at the joints between neck and fretboard that worries me. I hope its just the finish and not joints.
     
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    And i noticed a crack line on the side of the headstock, i hope its just the finish..

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    The wings are normally glued with a straight edge, not an angled edge. That looks like more finish cracking to me. But more knowledgeable people here may know better.
     
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    I think it has more to do with their having paid quite a bit of money for a new guitar and think that guitar should be in perfect condition when taken out of the box. I can agree with this in terms of glaring / blatant flaws.
     
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    it's just natural relicing, if it was mine I would probably swap out the tuners and condition the fret-board.
    Also I would look inside the electronics cavities for rusted pots / switch.
     
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    To me that looks like something made the fretboard and neck to "move" (expand, contract) at different rates and caused a crack on lacquer along the fretboard and the headstock veneer. It might be stable now, but I would monitor carefully if more cracks lines appear in future. If it stabilizes at this state, it might be reparable. But if it keeps "moving", I wouldn't bother with finishing. Play it till it can be played.
     
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    OK Bo-Biddly the damage is done, what would you charge the man to repair it? Can it even be repaired?
     
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    Hi Trypta, welcome to the SG zoo. That's a nice one you have there. Do we get to see the whole guitar ?

    Some (all ?) of the frets seem to have lifted. I was going to ak if strings buzz, but I went back to see the images and the action is wicked high on your SG. I bet that if it was down to specks, there'd be buzz all over the fretboard.

    If it was mine, I'd bring it to a good luthier for a complete setup. Looks like it desperatly need one.
     
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    I still say it's wear, not damage. For a neck-only, match color nitro refinish and new tuners about $550 US. If the whole guitar is refinished I'd probably recommend a complete French lacquer refin, about $600, all in. That said, if it was mine, I'd leave it alone and invent a great lie about the crazing.
     
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    I agree leave it :yesway:
     
  19. Trypta

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    Yes really in need for string action setup, its been kept in the case for a long time..

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    Welcome to ETSG!
    If this lovely SG was mine, my priorities would begin
    with making sure the neck is straight, and that the headstock
    is not cracked. Cracked headstocks can be repaired easily.

    If the neck is straight, or can be straightened, then I would check
    the frets for level.

    If the neck can be made straight and the frets can be made level,
    then I would check the electronics for corrosion, the nut slots for
    correct size and depth, and set the action and intonation for the
    type and gauge of strings you intend to use.

    Note that I have not mentioned fussing about finish flaws...
    Those are only a minor concern compared to issues of tone
    and playability. Get this neglected warhorse into fighting trim,
    and then rock.

    I would spend good money on the issues I mentioned, but spend
    very little effort or money on cosmetics. Just me, my priorities...
    Name her after an Island, or a memorable woman.
    Boca Grande...
     
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