Gibson Model Number Help

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  1. Evan Wolfe

    Evan Wolfe New Member

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    Hi everyone. Absolutely love this forum. I joined last year when I became a proud owner of 2019 SG Junior. Such a great instrument, and my first P90 equipped guitar. Those baby's still get me amped every time I let them rip through some mid range gain. That said...

    I just got a 2004 SG Special from a good friend of mine. I am absolutely floored by how it plays in my hands, just one of those pure moments where the guitar chooses you. So much so that I sold my LP Standard to my brother in law today ha. I emailed Gibson but havent heard back and was hoping y'all could help me decipher the Model Number. According to the serial number she was born May 2004 in Nashville. I'm fairly certain it's and SG Special, Mahogony, ebony board, 490 combo, Chrome, Hardtail, USA version, but, what do y'all think this translates to:

    Model Number: SGSCWBCH1
    Serial Number: 01344363
     
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  2. cerebral gasket

    cerebral gasket Well-Known Member

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    Welcome!

    Congrats on your 2004 SG Special Faded.

    SGSC = SG Special
    WB = Worn Brown
    CH = Chrome Hardware

    If you look inside the pup cavities, the bridge cavity will have SGSC written at the bottom and the neck cavity will have WB.

    2002 was the first year of the SG Special Faded. The 2002-2004 models had ebony boards. In addition to ebony boards, the 2002-2003 models had crescent moon inlays. 2004 models have dots and sometime during the year they transitioned back to rosewood boards.

    During this era they were producing two versions of the SG Special, one with a gloss finish and the other with a "Faded" satin finish with unfilled grain.

    The model names of the two versions are:

    SG Special (gloss finish)
    SG Special Faded (satin finish, unfilled grain)

    Years later, the model name "SG Special Faded" was shortened to "SG Faded".
     
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  3. Evan Wolfe

    Evan Wolfe New Member

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    Thank you for the detailed response! That nails it. I love the dark faded matte finish on it. Didn't think I would jive with fat neck but it has such a full tone to it, I love this guitar. Cheers!

    Edit: Just checked out your refinished Special. Gorgeous!
     
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  4. Col Mustard

    Col Mustard Well-Known Member

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    Welcome to ETSG

    You'll find not a few kindred spirits here.
    The Gibson SG faded special has its own following on
    these boards.

    As do many of Gibson's other models.
    I'm in the SG special camp. My first SG was(is) a
    2007 SG Special in faded brown. I fell arse over
    teakettle for this instrument in 2008 and it's
    two thousand effing twenty and I haven't changed
    my mind. The faded special is something Gibson got
    right IMHO.
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    So enjoy yours... the ebony fretboard makes yours a bit
    more cool than others (like mine) with regular rosewood.
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    But that's fine. MY SG Special gives up nothing. I named. her Luna, because the cutaways made me mindful of the phases of the moon. She's still the Queen of my music room so many years after I fell for the feel of the SG neck and the tone and the balance and the devilish charm of this guitar.

    One thing you'll notice: The faded finish (lacquer) is a lot thinner and softer than normal Gibson Deep Gloss, or more common Polyurethane finishes on Squiers and MIM Fenders and Epiphones, really most guitars are finished in polyurethane these days. The faded lacquer finish is easily damaged, you could dent it with your thumb nail.

    DON'T DO THAT... cherish your faded special and protect it from all hazards. (it won't work). Hazards
    and dangers are part of the life of a faded SG special.
    So it gets dinged easier, but the dings don't look out of
    place in the faded finish.
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    I don't know if the thinness of the lacquer is what gives SG faded specials
    such awesome tone, but something does. This model really is in a class all
    its own. Excellent choice, and lucky you to get the one you did.
     
  5. Evan Wolfe

    Evan Wolfe New Member

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    Thanks for the message, Col! Great info and advice. Love the wood grain pick guard. I just did a full setup on mine, cleaned off the previous owner, and she looks and sounds wonderful. Absolutely sounds different than any Standard I've played, there is serious mojo and bite in this piece of wood.
     
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    now you're getting the feel of it.
     
  7. catstudioguitars

    catstudioguitars New Member

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    the 490t bridge pickup is lot of fun
     

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