Are any of the newer made in china Tokai's any good, as most of the reviews online are in Taiwanese are don't have any proper reviews and only demos.The Tokai MIJ guitars are really nice. Their Vintage series is on par with regular Gibsons, and their Premium series is custom shop quality.
Are any of the newer made in china Tokai's any good, as most of the reviews online are in Taiwanese are don't have any proper reviews and only demos.
Since Epiphone is a Gibson owned and operated company, I would argue that they are not "copies" as such, but they are usually really nice, and are a good option on a budget. My understanding of the OP was in reference to actual "copies" Made in Japan under a different brand unaffiliated with Gibson. Some were completely unbranded (or had fragile decals that flaked off immediately) and there was a whole host of lawsuits in the 1970's against such companies who Gibson accused of violating trademarked aspects of their products.
If you're looking for an old one, Tokai, Burny, Ibanez, Hondo, and some Yamaha (there were some Lp lawsuit, I guess SGs too, plus the Yamaha Sg) can be good guitars too, but as with every brand, you have entry level ones, high end ones, and nearly everything in between.
and there was a whole host of lawsuits in the 1970's against such companies who Gibson accused of violating trademarked aspects of their products.
Well thanks for that, it is a much much clearer and more concise history than I have seen before. Learned something new today which is why I am here to begin with. My own "lawsuit era" Les Paul looks an awful lot like the unbranded 1975 Ibanez instrument pictured in the article, but in light of some of the additional facts contained there I will need to look at it more closely to see if it is indeed one of those models. It is mostly just out of curiosity, since it is a great guitar even if it is not what as was presented to me by the seller. One thing that is just confirmed by the article for me however is that you need to play it before you buy it to make sure it is something you want and worth the money. Mine was worth the purchase price no matter what it's history.This is wrong.
The only guitar Gibson threatened to sue over were the Ibanez LP copies and they changed their headstock before the case made it to court.
here, I searched it for you
The True Story Behind Japanese 'Lawsuit' Guitars – Soundfly
The 80s Greco SS guitars are fantastic. So are the later Mint Collection.A bit of threadcromancy here but there are some terrific SG clones not mentioned.
Greco SS series. 700 and 800 are nicer but the 600 is good.
Crews Maniac Sound
These are all made at either Fujigen or Terada factories and outstanding guitars.