Great New amp kits!!

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  1. TNT

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    [quote author=acdcrocker link=topic=9492.msg123871#msg123871 date=1153607323]
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    Ceriatone has great prices until you check out the  $hipping rate$ :o
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    true. A JTM45 chasis w/ tube's shipping alone is $170!!!
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    i'm seeing $123.00 and some change for JTM45 to the USA. :?
     
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    [quote author=CharlieB link=topic=9492.msg126360#msg126360 date=1154834183]
    IF ya get a Weber, just be prepared to through it to make it right.   Voice of experience there!
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    Also be prepared to wait. Like two months. For one speaker. And I live not more than 45 minutes from Kokomo where Weber Amps is located. >:(
     
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    [quote author=Bonfire link=topic=9492.msg125673#msg125673 date=1154491283]
    yeah, all good, it works, just open.

    the same cant be said if you meant a speaker cabinet.... i mean the amp would work, but no sound....lol
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    No hookie no speaker your OT go blooey!
     
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    [quote author=TNT link=topic=9492.msg126940#msg126940 date=1155083508]
    [quote author=CharlieB link=topic=9492.msg126360#msg126360 date=1154834183]
    IF ya get a Weber, just be prepared to through it to make it right. Voice of experience there!
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    Also be prepared to wait. Like two months. For one speaker. And I live not more than 45 minutes from Kokomo where Weber Amps is located. >:(
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    dang that sucks!

    it also sucks that i paid extra for shipping on my sg when they ship from south bend! >:(
     
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    just curious of all the amp build kits and diagrams wna whatnot, they all seem to be tube amps. is it possible to build solid state amps? does anyone know anything about this? and what about effects?
     
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    yes, and yes

    but on the first yes... why?

    on the second yes, oh its a wonderful thang!
     
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    because im curious to build a mini amp becuase I like making things and I dont want to build a big tube amp now and would like to start out small. theres this store on queen street that sells everything called active surplus. when i say everything, i mean everything! ill bet that theyve got averything required to build a tiny amp and then some!
     
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    From what I can tell, that's an 18watt amp, and they say to go to 18watt forum for more info. There is at least one member here who has built an 18watt, can't remember who off hand but I bet the search function will help. From my recent year or two at 18watt forum, they were quite clear that such a project is not a good choice for a first build.

    Building a complete tube amp is no easy simple project for the beginner, however if it's one you'd like to try, I suggest to join an amp building site and carefully ask for help when you "need" it and after you have tried but failed to do it right yourself. If you go in and ask too many questions without demonstrating your effort, you might have a tough time of it.

    You might want to buy some amp building books, some electronics books, etc. Or if your building a kit, try to make sure it comes with decent directions. It's fun but exacting work that pretty much requires a sharp mind. You could google guitar amp design and study up that way incase money is an issue.
     
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    Bonfire & SG dan
    I agree with Bon, I'd suggest going with a small beginner tube amp. AX84 is a great site that has these kinds of kits and a great community to learn about the building process. I suggest to either spend the bucks for some nice books on building amps (Ken Fischer comes to mind) and go to school on them (although I have no idea if he's into providing kits or books to help a beginner), or join an amp building website forum. I'd do both.

    I suppose sometimes a SS amp has the sound a person wants, but SS modeling amps for example, always try to emulate a tube amp, never does a tube amp try to sound like an SS amp. Tube amps don't simply amplify the signal, a good tube amp contributes to the sound in tone and touch response in ways that are unique to tube amps. You can get a SS amp to demonstrate varied pick attack, so for some, the advantages of all tube are small. I want the best sound I can afford to buy, and tube amps are the best sounding to my ears, so the choice is clear for me. Hense I now own a 50watt Marshall JCM800 and I wont go back to solid state.
     
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    [quote author=1Way link=topic=9492.msg127542#msg127542 date=1155408652]
    I suppose sometimes a SS amp has the sound a person wants, but SS modeling amps for example, always try to emulate a tube amp, never does a tube amp try to sound like an SS amp. Tube amps don't simply amplify the signal, a good tube amp contributes to the sound in tone and touch response in ways that are unique to tube amps. You can get a SS amp to demonstrate varied pick attack, so for some, the advantages of all tube are small. I want the best sound I can afford to buy, and tube amps are the best sounding to my ears, so the choice is clear for me. Hense I now own a 50watt Marshall JCM800 and I wont go back to solid state.
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    AMEN!
     
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    [quote author=acdcrocker link=topic=9492.msg123871#msg123871 date=1153607323]
    [quote author=seamas link=topic=9492.msg123833#msg123833 date=1153586487]
    Ceriatone has great prices until you check out the $hipping rate$ :o
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    true. A JTM45 chasis w/ tube's shipping alone is $170!!!
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    thats still a godd price for a jtm45 i might get one
     
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    [quote author=the bacon link=topic=9492.msg127927#msg127927 date=1155586083]
    [quote author=acdcrocker link=topic=9492.msg123871#msg123871 date=1153607323]
    [quote author=seamas link=topic=9492.msg123833#msg123833 date=1153586487]
    Ceriatone has great prices until you check out the  $hipping rate$ :o
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    true. A JTM45 chasis w/ tube's shipping alone is $170!!!
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    thats still a godd price for a jtm45 i might get one
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    True. $800 all together w/ shipping and hadling. BUT it doesnt come with a head cab. Thats another $200.
     
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    [quote author=TNT link=topic=9492.msg126939#msg126939 date=1155083332]
    [quote author=acdcrocker link=topic=9492.msg123871#msg123871 date=1153607323]
    [quote author=seamas link=topic=9492.msg123833#msg123833 date=1153586487]
    Ceriatone has great prices until you check out the  $hipping rate$ :o
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    true. A JTM45 chasis w/ tube's shipping alone is $170!!!
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    i'm seeing $123.00 and some change for JTM45 to the USA.  :?
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    Good news, I just got an email back from Nic from CeriaTone in Malasia and the shipping is lower priced and better faster service than they list on their website! They started going with DHL at about $100USD per completed amp (12.5kg)!
    :)
    I'm really enticed to try out a TrainWreck clone,,, in a year or so this may be good for a second tube amp. Although I hear that one weak point is that apparently they don't have lot's of clean headroom. Although they have two versions and I don't yet know which one or maybe if both are like that. At a hundred or so for shipping still sounds high, but Ceria's prices are low for what I hear are quality products. Ordering to arrival is expected to be around 2-3 weeks. And they do custom work too. For example, adding an FX loop for the TrainWreck is like 30-40 bucks. They also do a few other models not listed.
     
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    [quote author=1Way link=topic=9492.msg128286#msg128286 date=1155757358]
    [quote author=TNT link=topic=9492.msg126939#msg126939 date=1155083332]
    [quote author=acdcrocker link=topic=9492.msg123871#msg123871 date=1153607323]
    [quote author=seamas link=topic=9492.msg123833#msg123833 date=1153586487]
    Ceriatone has great prices until you check out the $hipping rate$ :o
    [/quote]

    true. A JTM45 chasis w/ tube's shipping alone is $170!!!
    [/quote]
    i'm seeing $123.00 and some change for JTM45 to the USA. :?
    [/quote]

    Good news, I just got an email back from Nic from CeriaTone in Malasia and the shipping is lower priced and better faster service than they list on their website! They started going with DHL at about $100USD per completed amp (12.5kg)!
    :)
    I'm really enticed to try out a TrainWreck clone,,, in a year or so this may be good for a second tube amp. Although I hear that one weak point is that apparently they don't have lot's of clean headroom. Although they have two versions and I don't yet know which one or maybe if both are like that. At a hundred or so for shipping still sounds high, but Ceria's prices are low for what I hear are quality products. Ordering to arrival is expected to be around 2-3 weeks. And they do custom work too. For example, adding an FX loop for the TrainWreck is like 30-40 bucks. They also do a few other models not listed.

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    THATS GREAT!
     
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    Thank ya, well, thanks goes to CeriaTone that is, happy to spread the news! BTW, I think I'm about to join you in the EPI Jr. modding business. Are you still going that rout? I suddenly find myself needing a cute little 5watt tube amp, and hearing these modders do their magic is making me want one. Besides, it will be my first amp head, I like head better than a combo.
     
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    Sorry ... but ... You know less than nothing about Trainwreck ... from what I read!
     

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