I find myself playing more and more. Sounds good through my Fender amp and takes an OD pedal great! Gibson has really hit a home run with this one! Black beauty is an instant keeper. Nothing to nit pick about. And this is my 4th SG. All sold.
Somebody said our 17' standard T's have ' chintzy bevels and look like norlin sg's' so I guess they mean we have substandard sg's? (sarcasm intended)
I guess in this context 'proper' would equate to original; the deep bevels typical of the early 60s, with the cut going right to the edge of the angel wing pick guard, and occasionally even deeper (well, they were hand made, with a lot of variation). OTOH, superb would be in the eye of the beholder, it could be applied to any bevel... You got me stumped on that one... :) Apart from the depth of the bevels there's also the question of the 'pointiness' of the horns: Early SG shapes typically had quite pointy horns, whereas many recent models tend to have 'cold chisel' style horns. For some reason, Gibson seem to have produced shallower bevels and fatter horns on the 'T' models of '16 & '17 (despite 'T' standing for traditional), with deeper bevels & more pointy horns on the 'HP' - though still short of the typical early SG's style: Of course, ultimately, it's going to be a personal thing as to whether it matters to you, or which look you prefer. I saw a '17 'T' for the first time last weekend, and was surprised just how minimal the lower bevel looked - more so than the photo above.
Aaaaaannnnndddd here we go about the bevels. Listen, do you play the bevel? No. It's just cosmetic and doesn't make it any less of an SG, and doesn't look "chintzy" at all. Congrats, I'm happy that you're happy!
Would you date a fat, ugly chick? After all; it's just "cosmetic" & doesn't make her less of a woman!
Bevels are done by hand, by a guy with a rasp. The guitar bodies are cut out by computer controlled machines first of course, but Gibson guitars are still made with a lot of hand work. So don't pay any attention to someone who wants to tell you your guitar is no good because one hand carved bevel doesn't resemble another hand carved bevel. It's all blowing smoke. No valid general statement can be made about hand carved work. Saying you like the way your own guitar was carved is okay. Telling someone else that their new guitar is no good because it doesn't live up to some imaginary ideal image... ugh They do stuff like that on other fora that I've visited, but not here. At least not very much. Let's not start now.
Not saying the guitar is no good,in fact it's prolly a great player. Just saying IMHO it looks like it was made in a hurry, without any effort put into the aesthetics. And if that's the case, what ELSE did they not put effort into?
Well said! These people on here are getting way too caught up with the bevel size! Btw are they really still done by hand? I didn't know that! Just assumed they were done by machine.
They were cut by a machine waaaaaay back - in Kalamazoo. You can read about it in Bacon's book on the SG - sounded quite a dangerous piece of machinery, and of course it required hands to push the body into the machine, so no doubt there was room for a bit of variation. Including occasions when the operator forgot to cut the reverse side. :)
