HELP is this Gibson SG authentic???

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  1. Frances

    Frances New Member

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    Saw this guitar being sold on a local Kijiji listing; since I'm left-handed, a used lefty SG in my area is a rare find so I'd jump to buy it, but for some reason it doesn't look authentic to me... any dead giveaways that it's a counterfeit? The description says it was made in Nashville in 2001. sg2.JPG sg3.JPG sg4.JPG sg13.JPG


    Thanks!
     
  2. cerebral gasket

    cerebral gasket Well-Known Member

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    That appears to be a legit SG Special with gloss finish, humbuckers, ABR-1 and upside down truss rod cover.

    1st and 5th digit of serial will be the year.
     
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    That's a funny way to mount your truss rod cover. Also, it looks like the dot in the 'I' is touching the G on the headstock. The pick guard looks like it's off to me to, but honestly, that could just be because it's left handed. For some reason my brain has trouble coming to terms with seeing left handed guitars.....I know they are essentially a mirror version of a right handed guitar, but for some reason they always look a little odd to me....
     
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    Norlin SG Well-Known Member

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    My 78 came with an upside down TRC. Maybe someone traded it for a R/H TRC.

    Good catch. The dot isn't even centered over the the "I". Something about the logo did look wrong, but I wasn't sure what.

    Better quality pictures would be helpful.
     
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    The TRC makes no sense to me because installing it backwards makes the "SG" upside down for a leftie. But, that has no real bearing on whether it's a legit Gibson or not.

    What gets me is how light the fretboard is, but again, it may have no bearing. Everything else I see looks good.
     
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    [​IMG] 98lthstk.jpg
    The logo looks the same on this '98 lefty.
     
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  7. Notabot

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    Huh. I just noticed my SG "horns" are not symmetrical either. Top horn is higher than the lower. :facepalm:
     
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    Yeah, that caught my attention, too. Hard to see the grain, which makes it look like baked maple, not in use in 2001 afaik.
     
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    AngelDeVille Well-Known Member

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    It looks real. Horns aren't symmetrical on any SG. Fretboards can look lighter depending on the flash.

    A serial number would help.
     
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    dub-setter Well-Known Member

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    yap...
    serial, shot of the back headstock
    and maybe a shot of the electronics/pots might help.
     
  11. Notabot

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    I've owned SGs on and off since the 70s. Never knew that until now.

    Just wanted to share my epiphanic experience with all y'all. I guess you just had to be here... :cheers:
     
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  12. Frances

    Frances New Member

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    These are the photos on the listing, sorry I don't have any others! But the serial number is apparently 01241596

    Thanks for all the replies, I'm glad to see it's looking like it's authentic!
     
  13. Steverz

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    Send your photos to Gibson. service@gibson.com . Ask them to forward your email if this is the wrong address. Best too hear from Gibson then hunt-and-peck with us guys. They will give you a 100% or near 100% correct answer. You can also use US Mail to this address, which might be even be better: Send you pictures here:
    Gibson Nashville (USA)
    Electric Guitars

    641 Massman Drive
    Nashville, TN 37210

    YES...they will answer your inquiry. They have always answered mine and others' I know. Try one or both of the ways to reach them. As for my opinion, I say your SG guitar is a fake. Gibson would not and does not allow such a hugh difference in the size's of the horns.

    By the way, I too am left-handed. But, leftie guitars were not available way back, so I learned right-handed. Recently though, I bought my first ever left-handed guitar and am currently learning to play it so I can add to my right-handed skills, not replace them.
     
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    AngelDeVille Well-Known Member

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    Its a 2001, made in Nashville

    If it is anywhere near $500 US, I would grab it.
     
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    They look pretty normal to me - although being 'reversed' does make them look more exaggerated. And there's a shadow behind the larger horn, making it look thicker. Here's a comparison:
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    Left - this guitar reversed to look R/H
    Middle - a L/H Gibson SG Standard
    Right - a R/H Gibson reversed as a comparison.
     
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    cerebral gasket Well-Known Member

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    The horns are clearly not symmetrical as shown on the SG Specials pictured below.

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    I'd say legit. The case is a 100% Gibson original. Tuners are probably aftermarket, though.

    Funny how I only noticed the horns being asymetrical on SGs when I first saw a picture of a left handed one...
     
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    Col Mustard Well-Known Member

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    SGs are never symmetrical, and never have been. It's part of the devilish charm.

    This one looks authentic. The light color of the fretboard means that it's dry.
    It should be scrubbed with a Gorgomyte pad to get all the crud and dead punk skin
    off it, and then it should be oiled with Fret Doctor. It will darken down like rosewood
    should.

    $500 would be an attractive price for this instrument. It also looks like
    someone modded it with Grover Rotomatic tuners, which are likely to be too heavy for an SG. If the guitar nose dives and won't balance... this is why. Something to be aware of. You be the judge. If if does balance, maybe they were factory
    installed. If they are a mod, you'll see extra screw holes in the back of the
    headstock.

    It's an easy fix to get those heavy tuners off there and install modern Klusons or Grover Vintage Keystones, or Gotoh or any of several other types that won't cause neck dive. Some players replace the metal knobs only, with something lighter.
    And that can remove enough weight to save your patience.
     
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    The controls are on the wrong side of the body. CLEARLY A FAKE! (hahahah sorry couldn't help myself, had to make a joke).
     
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    Asymmetrical horns stand out more on lefties because you're seeing the guitar "backwards", it'a a perception thing. Also, black SG's make lighter rosewood boards look like baked maple, it it were red or white, it would look like a light rosewood, another perception thing. Someone on here, I forget who, said all black SG's should have ebony boards, makes a lot of sense.
     
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