Help me date this 70-72 Gibson SG Standard

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  1. mas_fuerte

    mas_fuerte New Member

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    Hi everyone,

    First of all, this is my first post. I just bought this early 70's SG Standard (my first SG), and came across this awesome forum in trying to find out more info. The guitar is due to arrive later this week and I'm super excited!

    The serial number (771817) puts it in the 1970-1972 range, and based on the volute size and Gibson Patent Sticker humbuckers, I believe it's probably a '71.

    Here are some photos - let me know what you guys think!

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  2. Demon Dave

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    i think it is a great guitar, really nice score, and welcome
     
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  3. Chuteboxehero

    Chuteboxehero Well-Known Member

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    Looks nice. I think pot codes are going to be the only way to narrow it down to a specific year and not a multi year range. Hopefully they're original.
     
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    I think you're right. I'll take some photos of the pots when I get the guitar.
     
  5. cerebral gasket

    cerebral gasket Well-Known Member

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    Cannot be a 70-72.
    It has small block inlays.

    61-71 SG Standards had trapezoid inlays.

    There was no SG Standard in 72.

    SG Deluxe replaced the SG Standard in 72.

    73-74 SG Standards had unbound ebony boards, small block inlays.

    Must be a 75-76.

    1977 was the first year with 8 digit serial numbers with the 1st and 5th digits indicating the year.

    Serial numbers prior to 1977 are not reliable for dating purposes. If pots are original, pot codes will be more helpful in determining earliest date guitar was built.
     
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  6. everdying

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    what you have looks to be a 73...and has had the harmonica bridge replaced.
     
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    cerebral gasket Well-Known Member

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    double post
     
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  8. cerebral gasket

    cerebral gasket Well-Known Member

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    I've never seen a 73 SG Standard with a bound neck before.
     
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    quite a few images online that says otherwise.

    in 74/75...they also had bound rosewood boards too...so the possibility of it being that is there too.
    sometime around 75 there was a mix of 6-digit before moving on to 8-digit serials...so its definitely not a 76 onwards.

    why i say 73 is cos the bridge pickup is further away from the bridge...whereas most 74/75 i seen have the bridge pickup almost right beside the bridge.
     
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    cerebral gasket Well-Known Member

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    Good point.
    That bridge pickup does appear to be far away.
    With a Harmonica bridge, it would look more normal.

    Most of the 76 that I have seen have the model name stamped on the back of the headstock as well come to think of it.
     
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    So it appears that the pots are not original, which makes dating this thing darn near impossible now.
     
  12. Steve D

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    73s and 74s had rosewood (bound) or ebony (unbound). They both also had harmonica bridges but they moved the bridge pickup in '74 to be closer to the bridge and that change hung around for years. This one still has the pickup further away. So it looks like a '73 to me.
     
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  13. cerebral gasket

    cerebral gasket Well-Known Member

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    I say just play it.
    Don't worry about the exact year.

    My first SG was a second hand 69 SG Special that I purchased for $400 in the 80's. I purchased it at a store and at the time I was told that it was a 60's era SG. Did not care at the time what exact year it was. I just played the **** out of it.

    It wasn't until a few years ago when I joined this forum that I discovered what exact year it was. Doesn't change the fact that I enjoyed playing it when I had it.
     
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  14. Steve D

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    Sounds familiar. i bought an old SG in the '80s for $250, clerk told me it was a 1968. It was really a '61 - '63 SG Special (I can't prove what specific year, it's long gone). Didn't matter a bit to me at the time. But then again there was no vintage market back then and today it matters a lot for value. Perhaps that's part of the intent of the OP, just to understand the value.
     
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  15. Semla

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    It has the same pickup spacing, 3 piece neck with volute, bound rosewood board with block inlays as my 70's SG. Mine is either late 72 or early 73, the serial numbers wont tell exactly.
     
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    smells like a late 74 to me.
     
  17. LiamWilliam77

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    I'd be interested to knwo what was the nut size during those years?
    It seems it went down to 1 9/16 (1,55") for those block inlays walnut color SG
     
  18. everdying

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    ya about that, or 40mm.
     
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    I've attached a copy of, "Blue Book of Electric Guitars - 6th Edition - Gibson Serialization". It's a .pdf, and may be helpful. The S/N you cited may have been issued in '70, '71, or '72, according to that publication.
     

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