Help Verifying a Norlin

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  1. Stella

    Stella Member

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    I’m looking at this SG Deluxe Standard. Here’s the serial:

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    The Decoders are all over the place. I was told that it’s a 74, but I’m waiting on the pot codes. My guess is that it is what the seller is saying. He’s a close friend, so I’m not worried too much, but he’s not nearby. He says that he bought it from the original owner, who claims to have purchased it in 74. I’m not familiar with a case like this, especially without Gibson branding, but the original owner said that’s what came with it. I’m sure it could have been whatever the store had lying around at the time.

    I won’t be playing this guitar because of the nut width, but I’m getting it cheap, and it’s too clean to pass. I’ll just hold it for a decade or so. If you see anything weird let me know. I’m a lot more familiar with 50s and 60s than Norlin Gibsons.

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  2. Stella

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    Thank you…
     
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  3. cerebral gasket

    cerebral gasket Well-Known Member

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    There was no SG Deluxe in 1974.
    That is an SG Standard.
    Looks like a 73-74 because of the unbound ebony board.
     
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  4. Stella

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    Nice - already learned something.
     
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  5. njpaulc

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    Cases like that were common in that time period. I got one as a replacement for my chipboard '89 SG Special case at about that time.
     
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  7. Stella

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    Great - if your serial is that, I’m pretty sure that you’re correct about mine.

    I wish that I could play it, but I’ve had this guitar in my hands before, and it was pretty tricky - I was missing a lot. Perhaps I can adapt, but I began with 2” classical necks back in the 90s. I can usually handle down to 1 5/8”, but anything smaller gives me fits.
     
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  8. Stella

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    So, do you think it’s original, or a replacement?

    I have this case, that is currently housing my 82 Hamer Special, and I think it might be correct for the SG. Any idea?

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  9. Go Nigel Go

    Go Nigel Go Well-Known Member

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    Like you, I have fairly large hands, and started out on classical guitar. Some of my classicals are even a little over 2 inches wide. That said, my '71 SG has a 1.50 inch wide nut. It felt a bit awkward at first, but for playing certain styles (definitely NOT classical :naughty:) I was surprised how quickly I adapted once I started playing it on a regular basis. It did not affect my ability to go back to the wider necks at all, on the contrary it encouraged me to learn some new techniques, many of which even transfer nicely back to other instruments.

    I would definitely recommend playing it, as it will broaden your horizons. It won't work for everything you are used to, but you will find it can work quite nicely as a tool for expanding your pallet of sounds and techniques. If you have it, you may as well see what you can do with it. :D
     
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  10. PermissionToLand

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    Although serial numbers are the least reliable dating method, I have seen serials starting with a 1 ranging from '73 to early '74. Yours cannot be built later than mid-74 because after that, they re-positioned the pickups. The pots would be needed to determine any more specific of a range.

    https://solidguitar.fandom.com/wiki/Dating#Serial_Numbers_.281970.E2.80.931977.29

    https://solidguitar.fandom.com/wiki/SG_Standard#1972.E2.80.931979

    That guitar is in remarkable condition, I have to say. The dyes they used in the '70s were not very colorfast and are known for fading significantly. It's pretty rare to find a '70s SG that still has such a saturated cherry finish.
     
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  11. Go Nigel Go

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    I ran it through the "Magic 8 Ball" which is somewhat more reliable, I asked "Is this guitar a 1974?" and it came back "Signs say yes". I'm going with that. :lol:

    I agree the condition is really spectacular. It would have tempted me pretty hard if it had crossed my path for sure.
     
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    "Ask again later."
     
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    Oh, I forgot: it has the blocky logo that was phased out in early/mid '73. So I'd actually say this can be narrowed down to early/mid '73 because that was the same time that the Ebony fretboards were introduced.
     
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  14. papagayo

    papagayo Well-Known Member

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    Please send me the contact,
    I will play this baby.
     
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  15. njpaulc

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    I would think that it is a replacement, but wether it was marketed by Gibson or not i have no idea, mine was a gift. I could never understand this love for original cases. I'd rather have a good aftermarket case than an original case that is so damaged it offers no protection.
     
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  16. Stella

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    It’s just that I already have what I think is the correct case for it.
     
  17. Stella

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    It’s not for sale - he’s only trading it to me because I have a guitar that he wants. So, that’s why it’s “cheap” for me. I’d assume that he wouldn’t sell it for less than 4K, which is too much.
     
  18. Stella

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    Thank you…very helpful.
     
  19. papagayo

    papagayo Well-Known Member

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    US$4000 ?? This is a nice Norlin but this is a Norlin...
     
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  20. PermissionToLand

    PermissionToLand Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, it looks like that's what would have come with it originally:

    https://reverb.com/item/36058943-1974-gibson-sg-standard-walnut-no-break-tar-back-pu-limited-african-ebony-unbounded-board

    https://reverb.com/item/38197544-1976-gibson-sg-standard

    https://reverb.com/item/26020936-gi...-made-in-usa-original-case-survivor-no-smells

    Although I see a few differences like the tumbler on yours, the storage pull tab and the number of latches.
     
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