cog
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Not so much a question, but figured I'd post my experience in case anyone else is looking at installing any Rotomatic tuners instead of the "kluson's" that came on it originally.
After searching the forum and the web, I hadn't yet found any satisfactory answer to whether or not you need to bore out the tuner-hole or drill a new pilot hole for the screw. So, figuring that it's possibly different depending on model year, etc, I decided to just get a drill handy and go for it.
I have a 1993 SG Standard, by the way, so if you've swapped tuners and had to do something different, might as well post your model and year.
Anyways, I can say that I did not have to bore or ream out the peghead holes, but I did have to drill a new hole for the screw. However, it looks as if the new hole would be covered if I ever wanted to put the old tuners back on (not a chance I'd want to); the new hole ended up being just below the existing one, on the line of the indentation left by the Kluson.
I gotta say that the 18:1 gear ratio is a noticeable improvement, and that the locking is sweeeeet. No dials or clamps or anything to lock the string.
But on an interesting note, I noticed some differences in the Gibson klusons I removed. I'd had to replace two of them over the years (the knobs got bent and wouldn't hold tune very well). Now I hadn't noticed originally, but the lettering was quite different on the two replacements and the stock tuners. The stock tuners said "Made in Japan" on the part you never see, and for the replacements (also actual Gibsons, scavenged from a parts box) neither of them said anything of the sort, and the "Gibson Deluxe" lettering on the backs were differently sized on them. Who's actually making some of these stock tuners for Gibson? Is it something like Gotoh, as I noticed some of the guitars on Gibson.com explicitly state that they're using Gotoh tuners now.
Anyways, just food for thought.
After searching the forum and the web, I hadn't yet found any satisfactory answer to whether or not you need to bore out the tuner-hole or drill a new pilot hole for the screw. So, figuring that it's possibly different depending on model year, etc, I decided to just get a drill handy and go for it.
I have a 1993 SG Standard, by the way, so if you've swapped tuners and had to do something different, might as well post your model and year.
Anyways, I can say that I did not have to bore or ream out the peghead holes, but I did have to drill a new hole for the screw. However, it looks as if the new hole would be covered if I ever wanted to put the old tuners back on (not a chance I'd want to); the new hole ended up being just below the existing one, on the line of the indentation left by the Kluson.
I gotta say that the 18:1 gear ratio is a noticeable improvement, and that the locking is sweeeeet. No dials or clamps or anything to lock the string.
But on an interesting note, I noticed some differences in the Gibson klusons I removed. I'd had to replace two of them over the years (the knobs got bent and wouldn't hold tune very well). Now I hadn't noticed originally, but the lettering was quite different on the two replacements and the stock tuners. The stock tuners said "Made in Japan" on the part you never see, and for the replacements (also actual Gibsons, scavenged from a parts box) neither of them said anything of the sort, and the "Gibson Deluxe" lettering on the backs were differently sized on them. Who's actually making some of these stock tuners for Gibson? Is it something like Gotoh, as I noticed some of the guitars on Gibson.com explicitly state that they're using Gotoh tuners now.
Anyways, just food for thought.
