Is it worth replacing pots on SG Special VE?

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  1. BADAXE

    BADAXE New Member

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    I replaced the pickups on my matte black SG Special VE with Artist Guitars 'bullbucker' humbuckers and wow! Huge improvement. I compared to a SG400 Pro in the local shop and my Special VE sounds better. I do notice that there is a huge jump in volume from just past '2' on the volume knob, and the tone seems to not make much difference from '6' upwards. Is this normal? Still sounds amazing, especially through the Boss OS2! Would upgrading the pots etc. result in improved controls?
     
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    Von Trapp Well-Known Member

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    Yes, try CTS audio taper. In my experience the nicest transition. Haven't tried the Bourns though (because I was satisfied with CTS) but hear they are good as well in this respect.
     
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    If you keep the same (audio and/or linear) potentiometers, you will see no difference at all in tone, no matter the brand.
     
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    I'm not exactly sure what you mean but I've compared the junk that the guitar came with to Alpha and CTS. CTS had the smoothest transition. If you mean the ACTUAL tone, then yes, it doesn't change but I figured that went without saying. As long as you have the same value pots, but perhaps that's what you meant?
     
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    If you read my post, yep, that's what I meant.

    OP seem to be new at this and there's plenty of read on the web about how dramatic the tone changed with new pots.
     
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    Got it, so replacing wont change the sound- but with higher quality I could achieve better control and finer tuning of the tone? Instead of the current marginal change?
     
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    That's so, but there is a way you can change the sound. You do that by choosing the resistance of the pots. 500k is normal. If you drop that down to the Fender value of 250k, you will darken the top end. Going up to 1 Meg will brighten things. My G400 came standard with 1 Meg.
     
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    I'm not picking a fight here, I genuinely didn't know what you meant.
     
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    Damn. I'm trying to imagine what darkening the top end 'means'..My Strat copy (Artist STH) has the Epiphone humbucker installed (replaced the less hot Wilkinson that came with it) in the bridge, man is it sharp sounding. Compared to the Artist bullbucker in the bridge of my SG is that the SG is..warmer? Fuller maybe. Not sure what top end is?
     
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    Top end is treble, bottom end is bass. Darkening the top end is a bit like, but not identical to, turning down the treble control on the amp.
     
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    here's a silly theoretical question-wouldn't you want to have a 1M pot then? this would give you the most tonal variation. if the lower value pot (fender 250k) gives the lower high end (less treble), wouldn't the highest value pot (1M) give the higher high end (more treble)? You could then put the 1M pot at it's lowest setting to have least treble/high end and up full on 10 to give the most treble if that is what you wanted. Am I missing something here?
     
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    i would go for 500 k cts pots.

    you can also solder in a capacitor
    for less loss of treble when turning down the volume pot.

    my epi custom came with stock ones soldered in.
    (don´t know the value yet)
     
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    Nope, you've got it right. Start with everything available and cut what you don't want. But for some reason people would rather spend a few hundred on new pickups than move a tone control on an amp. Beats me.
     
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    100pF is a normal value. It will preserve top end down to better than half volume.
     
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