Looking for info. Mint unfinished 1960's SG neck.

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  1. Sdshirtman

    Sdshirtman New Member

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    Hello everyone. The repair shop I work at part time acquired this SG neck earlier in the week. It was acquired as part of a bulk parts buyout package from a customer. We were told it was an early 60's neck from the Kalamazoo factory that "fell off the back of a truck". My guess is that it was taken off the floor by an unscrupulous employee. I have no idea how he acquired it and we didn't ask, but its in our possession now. As far as we can see its not a second. It's unfinished and the binding hasn't had the nibs shaped yet. Judging by the neck heel shape it could be a 61 or 64-65 but its just a guess because it has no serial numbers stamped on it. I'm relatively new here but thought that this would be the place to post this and try and get some more info and opinions. What I'm after is to see if there is some way of identifying the year without serial numbers. I'm also looking for a value estimation. I'm pretty sure this will eventually be listed for sale. Feel free to comment and discuss.

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    shreddy bender Well-Known Member

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    Sorry, I'm not going to be any help but I will say one thing... Neat!
     
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    JohnnyGoo Well-Known Member

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    very cool
     
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    JohnnyGoo Well-Known Member

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    love it when parts fall off the back of the truck
     
  5. Sdshirtman

    Sdshirtman New Member

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    It's neat for sure. It's not every day you come across a 50 yr old piece like this. Still looking for input.
     
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    50 years old with nibs?
     
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    SG John Well-Known Member

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    Wicked cool! No idea on value, but I'd be willing to jump on it if the price is right.
     
  8. Sdshirtman

    Sdshirtman New Member

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    As far as I know they came with nibs. If you have info otherwise share it!

    I'l let you know when it goes up for sale (which it will be eventually).
     
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    they'll never learn...

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    Sdshirtman New Member

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    I'm not a Gibson expert or historian so now I'm genuinely curious. Did they not do nibs on SG's back then?
     
  11. axedoctor

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    I'm no expert but I thought early 60's Gibson SG necks had a tenon that was as wide as the fingerboard. That one looks like what Gibson used on their LP models.
     
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    That tenon is also too thick (from top to bottom) to be from an early 60's SG with the small joint. Maybe a 68 or later when they switched to the long neck joint that has deep tenon shoulders or as said a LP neck.

    Great score though!
     
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    In those early years the fret wire was fatter & lower profile & the binding was thinner. If this is a Gibson, I think it would have to be newer post 90's when the frets thinned a bit, got taller & the binding thickened which all added up to a more noticeable higher profile Nib on an un-tappered fret end.

    SG John is the man on early necks. Drop him a PM & ask him to check out this thread.

    Here is a 1996 '61 reissue.
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    Compared to the one you posted the '96 above still appears to have lower fatter frets... and don't forget the original 60's era Gibson SG's & LP's were so low & wide they earned the all too appropriate moniker 'Fretless Wonder'.
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    Very Cool!
     
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    SG Lou Moderator Staff Member

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    Early 60's necks had what called a box joint tenon which is a much wider, not narrow like you have. Also Gibson did not use the Fiber ovelays on the necks in the 60's. It was American Holly. I'm 100% sure that's a 61-62 reissue neck as this neck joins the body at the 22 fret, just like the early 60's.
     
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    SG Lou Moderator Staff Member

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    If it was a mid to late 60's neck then it would join the body at the 19th fret.
     
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    Thanks Lou. Nice to hear some real 60's knowledge.

    Wish the OP would show back up. I'm sure it is a bit of a letdown going from feeling like you have a 50 year old piece of Gibson history in your hands to finding out you're holding a much more modern piece of wood. Boy huh?

    Hey, life goes on.
     
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    Sorry I've been a little vacant from this thread. I just read through the additional comments. Thanks for the additional info. Since this neck slipped out of the factory before it received a serial number we are still trying to ID it. I'm going to PM SG John as relic suggested. I'll try and take another round of better pictures to help identify soon.
     
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    Also post it for sale here please.

    SG Lou is correct - you probably have a 90's re-issue but that is still valuable to many here.
     
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    SG Lou Moderator Staff Member

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    No need to PM SG John......I know these like the back of my hand, both old and new and what you have is a later reissue neck. Fiber overlay on the headstock and smaller tenon is a dead give away !
     
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