Love my gas guzzler, looking at electrics.

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Will you consider an EV or hybrid soon?

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  1. Biddlin

    Biddlin Well-Known Member

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    Like all American baby-boomers I love V8 horsepower rear-wheel drive, neck snapping wheel spinning rubber burning 0-60 mph 3 second performance. I loved it more when the US population was less than 197 million souls, the world's was a scant 3.9 billion and petrol sold for 30 cents/US gallon. I wish I could honestly say my thoughts of abandoning it were based on a greater understanding of climate change, environmental impacts and compassion for my fellow human beings, but I am just being practical. The cost of operating my Lincoln Towncar is getting to be onerous on a fixed income and maintaining the ICE , oil changes and replacing parts takes more and more money. With most of the world outlawing ICEs by the end of the decade buying another one seems silly.
    A few months ago I drove a friends Tesla S and fell in love, but the sticker price ($70k) was daunting to say the least. There are now a much larger group of makes and models to choose from. some are attractively priced, but either too small for my needs or have a very short range between charging. The Kia Soul EV is very sporty, about $35k but only goes about 111 miles before it calls for Reddy Kilowatt. The Kia Niro (about $38k) Chevy Bolt and Hyundai Kona about $37k go more than twice that distance. The Tesla 3 gets about the same distance or a bit more, is a couple of thousand cheaper and has the (experince) edge. It also offers access to Tesla’s Supercharger network and free over-the-air software updates. because of my proximity to dealerships, the Tesla 3 and Kia Niro are tops on my list atm.
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    Note the Spartan appearance of the Tesla dashboard. Everything is done from the touch screen.
    If I had $75k to spend on an EV, the Jaguar I-pace would be a strong contender, but in my world one of these two will likely be in my garage later this year or next.
     
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    I'm in London, but I have a garage (I know, that makes me a lucky boy) and a few superchargers near me. So yes an electric car is on the agenda. Only issue to date is that the drive to visit my family is about 300 miles, and I definitely want a car that can cover that comfortably on one charge. We may be one generation of battery chemistry away from that right now.
     
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    The top trim Tesla 3 and the Tesla X can cover that distance. The Tesla S can go almost 400. BTW the audio system in the two Teslas I've driven has been incredible, even better than the Lexus' Mark Levinson system.
     
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    Thanks - I haven't been keeping up with Tesla. Love the cars, not so keen on the prices.
     
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    No, not yet. And as long as I can buy gas, I’ll keep at least one of my gassers. :D
     
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    I have a 2004 Jag S type. I will drive it until it dies, and I will buy another gas powered Jag when that happens.
     
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    I must say I enjoy the performance of the Tesla. It has no gears and is virtually silent, so the only sound those around it hear is as it blows by them is "Whoosh". I really enjoy sneaking up on bicyclists obstructing a highway lane and then sounding the horn. @donepearce Think of the fun you could have with Cycling Mikey, vigilante traffic cop.
     
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    The Chevy volt is amazing. Fun to drive. Quick! And if you’re driving in a metro area....you can easily average 80 plus mpg.

    And you can always run gas. The system is fantastic.
     
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    Yes, but really uncomfortable on longer drives. Also it only runs about 50 miles on a charge then you're burning petrol at a pretty fast clip, so on a trip from Sacramento to LA I'd really average about 30mpg or less. A survey of 1500 owners showed a real 75 mph mileage on gas at about 30mpg (US). Good cargo space with rear seats folded, though. I rented one for a gig and got 3 guitar cases 2 big combo amps and two suitcases in with plenty of room up front.
     
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    I live in London. Cars obstruct the bikeway over here. Average driving speed in London is a little under 10MPH. My average cycling speed is about 20MPH. My general plan is that if I am going into town I cycle, out of town I drive.
     
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    My lady has a Volt. She rarely buys gas. Like 4 times a year for local travel.

    Straight gas mpg is more like 45. But we don’t have mountains.

    She uses it for 3-400 mile trips on the regular. So she gets gas for those. Small tank...maybe 10 gallons tops?
     
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    The latest hybrid ad on TV here is for - I think - a Lexus. They are trying to make a feature of the fact that you can't plug it in to charge it. That makes it, in my book, purely petrol-powered and as much of a waste of time as a Toyota Pious.
     
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    We experimented with 2 different hybrids a while back ( both hondas ) it was maybe too early or maybe bad choices on my part selecting those.

    An all electric at some point probably makes a lot of sense as one of our cars for local driving etc. Just not necessary to pull trigger at this point

    I have to say my Honda 2018 Pilot AWD EXL gets not very good mileage ( the way I drive it like just above 20 mpg ) but it is the best vehicle and most fun to drive that I have ever had. Something like 330 hp I think and just a V6 no turbo but Honda makes great engines and it is pretty dang quick especially obviously with just a driver and no load ha ha ...
     
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    Isn't most of the world going all electric new car sales by 2035?
     
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    My step son's boyfriend has a 2020 Kia Soul EV. The range is vey good. They live about 80 km away and can easily drive here and back without a charge. It can snap your head back when accelerating. It also seems much bigger inside than it looks from the outside. My wife and I both have gas powered Kia Souls and love them but if I buy another car it will be an EV, probably a Soul. I have hit a point in my life where I doubt I'll buy another car so I'm stuck with gas.
     
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    The UK is doing that by law.
     
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    My friend Dan is a Tesla sales guy. He worked for me once a long time ago and I gave him a deal on my old BSA 650. A couple of years ago we hooked up again and he gave me my first taste of Tesla with a ride up to Lake Tahoe in his S type. I'm going to test drive a pre-owned 3 today, doing him a favor by returning it to Walnut Creek and no doubt getting a sales pitch while I'm there. I'll let you know how it goes.
     
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    Wow, I didn't buy one, but I enjoyed the drive to Walnut Creek in the 2019 3. I didn't think the blank dashboard and 15" touch screen would bug me, but it did at first, less so as I got into the drive and after finding my favorite FM station. A better ride you couldn't ask for, firm enough to feel the road but not Subaru bruising hard. Entering the freeway, I ran up to 70 MPH on about 5 seconds from the on-ramp staging light. Brakes were also good but take a little getting used to since there is no transmission e.g. no "engine compression braking." At the Walnut Creek dealership, I got a friendly reception and tour, no hardcore sales but they did encourage me to check out any model I liked and gave me first rate coffee and an apple fritter. The ride home was in a new model S and the performance is slot car like. I remain very impressed by these cars.
     

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