Low profile POT W/DPDT SW ASSEMBLY

Discussion in 'Luthier's Corner' started by Huntroll, Nov 20, 2020.

  1. Huntroll

    Huntroll Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2014
    Messages:
    336
    Likes Received:
    144
    I predict that the first company to design, patent and produce a potentiometer/DPDT switch assembly with an overall height dimension of no greater that 3/4 of an inch, will become the world leader in sales of said device.
    It shouldn't cost more than a couple of bucks each to produce and could easily sell for $20 each.
    That's a pretty good profit margin !
    Here's how I would do it -
    I would make the pot part a little larger in diameter then . . .
    Make the switch part a little smaller,
    Then fit the switch part down into the pot assembly.
    WA - La !
    CTS, China, are you reading this ?
    Get busy, get it done !
    There's alot of customers waiting with "cash in hand" !
     
  2. donepearce

    donepearce Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 12, 2012
    Messages:
    4,510
    Likes Received:
    3,889
    Location:
    London, sitting in the garden
    What is the application that limits height to 3/4"?
     
  3. chilipeppermaniac

    chilipeppermaniac Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2012
    Messages:
    6,396
    Likes Received:
    3,426
    Location:
    Maryland
    DON, I HAVE NO IDEA WTF the first post is explaining.

    I must be daft.
     
    donepearce likes this.
  4. chilipeppermaniac

    chilipeppermaniac Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2012
    Messages:
    6,396
    Likes Received:
    3,426
    Location:
    Maryland
    OP, are you suggesting an alternative to a Push pull pot type thing, where the Pot is a volume style pot with a toggle built into it to do double duty of acting as a switch and a pot in one unit?
     
  5. Von Trapp

    Von Trapp Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2016
    Messages:
    769
    Likes Received:
    467
    Location:
    Sweden
  6. Huntroll

    Huntroll Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2014
    Messages:
    336
    Likes Received:
    144
    Ever try to make holes in cover like this ? -


    CUSTOM.JPG


    If you install CTS pots w/DPDT switches in a standard thickness SG, that's what you have to do.

    Now do you get it ?
     
    Last edited: Nov 20, 2020
  7. Huntroll

    Huntroll Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2014
    Messages:
    336
    Likes Received:
    144
    Please don't insult me.
     
  8. donepearce

    donepearce Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 12, 2012
    Messages:
    4,510
    Likes Received:
    3,889
    Location:
    London, sitting in the garden
    I have pots with switches for phasing the pickups in my SG. They fit inside the cavity with no problem. You are making it seriously hard to avoid insulting you, you know.
     
  9. plankton

    plankton Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2016
    Messages:
    1,062
    Likes Received:
    1,000
    Location:
    Adelaide, Australia
    My G400 Pro came with push/pull pots and they fit in the cavity fine. They were rubbish however and broke quickly, and I didn't replace them as I didn't need the feature. Someone must make decent quality ones that fit.
     
  10. cerebral gasket

    cerebral gasket Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 13, 2017
    Messages:
    3,367
    Likes Received:
    4,255
    Split coils sound weak.
    Get a Strat instead if you want single coils.
    Use the right tool for the job.

    SG with P-90’s is where it’s at.
     
    Von Trapp likes this.
  11. Huntroll

    Huntroll Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2014
    Messages:
    336
    Likes Received:
    144
    "I have pots with switches for phasing the pickups in my SG. They fit inside the cavity with no problem. You are making it seriously hard to avoid insulting you, you know."

    This I'd like to see.
     
  12. Huntroll

    Huntroll Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2014
    Messages:
    336
    Likes Received:
    144
    It's likely you will never hear the sound I have.

    Too bad.

    I can have all four coils in parallel,

    I can have three coils in parallel,

    I can select which coils are in parallel.

    You might have to add some gain, but the sound is totally unique.

    My amp can handle it.

    On the front, my controls look totally stock.

    Unfortunately, I had to modify the control cavity cover.

    That's the reason for my original post.
     
  13. donepearce

    donepearce Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 12, 2012
    Messages:
    4,510
    Likes Received:
    3,889
    Location:
    London, sitting in the garden
    s-l300.jpg

    Just go to any lutherie supplier and look for switched pots. They are probably one of the more popular lines.
     
  14. Huntroll

    Huntroll Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2014
    Messages:
    336
    Likes Received:
    144
    REALLY ?

    "This I'd like to see."

    I WAS REQUESTING TO HAVE A LOOK AT YOUR HANDYWORK SIR .

     
  15. donepearce

    donepearce Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 12, 2012
    Messages:
    4,510
    Likes Received:
    3,889
    Location:
    London, sitting in the garden
    I don't have it handy right now, sorry. And please be aware, using all caps is usually interpreted as shouting.
     
  16. Huntroll

    Huntroll Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2014
    Messages:
    336
    Likes Received:
    144
    I thought so.
     
  17. donepearce

    donepearce Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 12, 2012
    Messages:
    4,510
    Likes Received:
    3,889
    Location:
    London, sitting in the garden
    Meaning what? Do you doubt that my SG has a push pull pot? It is such a trivial thing I'm sure many people here have them. Jimmy page wiring has been a thing for many years.
    I'm sorry you mutilated your guitar but at least it is repairable. Maybe in future you should ask first.
     
  18. Huntroll

    Huntroll Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2014
    Messages:
    336
    Likes Received:
    144
    The upper assembly does the red/white pairs.

    The lower assembly does the green/black pairs.

    MUTILATED STYLE !

    SG-w2CTS.jpg FRONT.JPG SG-COVER.jpg
     
    Last edited: Nov 27, 2020 at 2:05 PM
  19. Von Trapp

    Von Trapp Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2016
    Messages:
    769
    Likes Received:
    467
    Location:
    Sweden
    Is that guitar extra thin or are those pots extra deep? My daughters Epi SG had push/pull before I yanked them out and those fit fine.

    (on a side note; stellar job on those holes though!)
     
  20. Huntroll

    Huntroll Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2014
    Messages:
    336
    Likes Received:
    144
    Thanks for the compliment, it sure wasn't easy.

    It's a 2016 Gibson faded SG.
    I probably could have made them fit but then the knobs would have been too high.
    I like them nice and low.
    I do believe Epiphone's are at least 1/4" thicker.

    These guys claim to have a new design CTS assembly that will fit -

    (I really hope they do).

    "eBay item number:153044002001"

    "The CTS pots are full size pots with a custom smooth taper. They have a printed circuit connection on top of a custom designed small DPDT switch. It is made to fit inside Gibson SG with NO modifications! Gone are the clearance issues of routing or cover fitment, these full size, spring-assist push-pull pots fit in every guitar!"

    As Jimi said : “As you well know, you just can't believe everything you see and hear, can you?”

    Maybe they do fit, I don't know.

    They look to be 1" tall, I'm sorry.

    They never state the actual dimension.

    CTS needs to make an assembly that's 3/4" tall max. plain and simple.

    Not 1 inch , 3/4 of an inch.

    They've got the resources.
     

Share This Page