made in japan SG - unknown - looking to idenfity

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  1. derekirving

    derekirving New Member

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    I picked up this unknown "made in japan" SG for $99 (tag said 80's but the store could have guessed). The action was super high and the guitar was unplayable ( the previous owner must have used it for slide). I thought the guitar had potential so I picked it up. After a good setup and new nut it plays, sounds and feels pretty good. The pickups are very clear sounding for humbuckers. Neck is around 7.8k and Bridge is around 8.1k.

    I'm wondering if anyone can help identify the guitar. There is NO name on the headstock and the top of the headstock is almost exactly like a gibson. It's cut off in the photo but I think it's called mustache / open book headstock. It's a bolt on neck with "made in japan" on neck plate. The knobs seem diff than typical gibson style knobs and there is some writing (CHION) on the pots. (tone pots are 1000k)

    Here are a few pictures.

    p.s. I have not removed the pickguard yet. Hoping the knobs are identifiable.



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  2. Chubbles

    Chubbles Well-Known Member

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    It kind if reminds me of a Lyle guitar. I have one.
     
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    Chubbles Well-Known Member

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    Here's a Lyle with a different pickguard type. They vary:

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    It's hard to tell for sure. There maybe hidden markings possibly in the neck pocket. Sears sold a ton of Japanese guitars for years.
     
  5. PeteR

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    I've never seen a knob alignment like this on a SG.....:hmm:
     
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    The wiring and switch sort of remind me of an Aria.
     
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    looks like my 1973 Carlo Robelli SG made in Japan
     

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    jtees4 Well-Known Member

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    I have no idea, but I would say the way to track it down is to find another guitar with the same truss rod cover.....that seems pretty"different". I suspect 80's or even early 90's. Screw heads on the bridge seem Epiphony, Samicky to me. Could even be Korean. Good luck.
     
  10. Rox

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    That truss rod cover I've seen on an Aria Acoustic from the 1970s. Aria was a brand name and used lots of different manufacturers, so it's not hugely helpful but may help narrow down your search. It was like this one, but 'plain'

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    I hope this helps:

    Pre-Aria Pro II models had these truss rod covers (you can see it on these 335 copies and basses on the site below). So it's an unbranded version of whoever manufactured the earliest Aria guitars.

    http://www.matsumoku.org/models/aria/aria.html

    From Wikipedia:

    Aria was formed in Japan in 1956 by Shiro Arai as "Arai & Co., Inc".

    They began retailing acoustic guitars in 1960, although the company did not start manufacturing their own until 1964. Aria arranged for Matsumoku, the musical instrument maker, to build the guitars for them under contract. Arai and Matsumoku started building acoustic guitars in 1964, and then electric guitars in 1966, using Arai, Aria, Aria Diamond, Diamond, and much less frequently, Arita brand names. The Aria brandname was changed to Aria Pro II in late 1975.
     
  13. warmachine

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    I hate that I recognize that rectangular shaped bridge from another copy era guitar but cant remember the name. Rythmline, Norma, National. Some off brand. That control layout though is a first. Never seen that before.
     

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