New Gibson SG Standard tuning problems.

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Apologies for bumping an old thread. Next up is my annoying G string constantly going out of tune.

When I tune it there is that telltale pinging going on like the string is hanging up in the nut or at the bridge. Tonight's job will be some fettling with a needle file and some application of graphite via a pencil lead.

One thing I would like to add, as a LP player of many years, the best money I've ever spent is on a set of graphite saddles. String breakages now non existant whereas before it was every gig and tuning so stable it stays that way from gig to gig. If the old fashioned filing and pencil lead trick doesn't work on the SG I'll be getting another set of those black saddles...!
 

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When I tune it there is that telltale pinging going on like the string is hanging up in the nut or at the bridge. Tonight's job will be some fettling with a needle file and some application of graphite via a pencil lead.

I had exactly the same problem - completely solved with graphite :) Used to go sharp with bending and it got to the point that I couldn't do a single bend without 'fixing' it by wiggling the string on the other side of a nut. Not really something you can do mid-song, so I found my playing a bit restricted. Now, however, it's only my newbie little fingers that restrict my bends!
 

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Used to go sharp with bending and it got to the point that I couldn't do a single bend without 'fixing' it by wiggling the string on the other side of a nut.

To me, if its that bad, my bet is on a badly cut nut.
 

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Mod fever vs patience

My acoustic guitar player's "Grip OF Death" was throwing my notes sharp and making me crazy. After putting my SG in the hands of an excellent electric guitarist, and listening to him play my Gibson and sound awesome, I realized it was nothing wrong with my SG.

I was thinking of selling my SG because it wouldn’t stay in tune, then stumbled upon your quote. I laughed for an hour. It is sooo true! Thank you for your advice!
 

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well, bumping up an old thread is ok
because some things never change.

Thank you for the good word, Tia. What you quoted is a 'lesson learned the hard way."
And yes, it is true. It's something many players have to learn as best they can.

The cool thing about learning this lesson is how much it sets a player free. I played acoustic
and bass for actually decades before getting my first SG. I really did develop a grip of death
from playing badly setup acoustics. And the grip of death really did inhibit my style.

Once I forced myself to re-learn how to play, keeping my thumb behind the neck and playing
with a much lighter touch and a relaxed hand... my style developed very quickly, and I found
myself playing parts I never had dreamed I could. Not only did I play my electric guitar better,
but I played my acoustic guitars better.

So the hard learned lesson actually did me a lot of good. I hope you get something from it too.

ETSG wisdom:

If you need money, don't sell your SG...
Sell something else.

If you have tuning problems, learn about the self-locking method
of installing strings. Get your guitar professionally set up and the
nut slots checked. Do this before you spend any money on new tuners.

Guys often are quick to replace tuners, simply because they CAN do it.
All you need is a screw driver. The most unfortunate are the ones who
replaced perfectly good Gibson tuners with heavy Grover rotomatics or
heavy locking tuners, and then had to endure neck dive. Bad choices...
 


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