Nose diving SG Bass

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  1. Trib

    Trib New Member

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    Howdy,
    Has anyone solved the head nose diving problem on an (2014) SG bass? Have tried different straps, increasing/decreasing the strap length and nothing seems to help. Any Ideas?
    Thank you in advance for any suggestions.
    Trib
     
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  2. Bad Penguin

    Bad Penguin Well-Known Member

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    Rest your arm on it.
     
  3. rotorhead

    rotorhead Well-Known Member

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    2014 was a bad year for neck dive. Try upgrading to a 2015 or above.
     
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    DrBGood Well-Known Member

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    I played a Melody Maker bass for 10 years when I was younger and I don't remember any of that neck dive syndrome. I was too busy playing it I guess. No internet to ponder these existential questions then.

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  5. SG standard

    SG standard Well-Known Member

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    Welcome to the forum.

    Neck dive is a 'difficult' subject around here... :) I did own an SG bass, briefly, and it had the worst case of neck dive I've come across on an SG - not surprising really. The usual best solution is to start at the headstock, with lighter tuners - though I'm not sure how much of an option that is on a bass. I decided to move the rear strap button 'up' on one of my SGs - this works well, but not everyone wants to make that kind of change, and you'd only want to do it on a keeper. The result is a perfectly balanced guitar, but you do need to carefully check just where to reposition it. It's described here. And here's the picture that went AWOL:
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    Nooooo, mine was a 2015! Quite possibly worse than 2014 :) A 2017 EB might be fine. But it was a very different shape:
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    I suspect that upper horn solves any neck dive. Even if it looks as ugly as most basses... :D
     
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    cerebral gasket Well-Known Member

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    Neck Dive 2.0
     
  7. Plan Zero

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    They all do it. Even my melody maker and slot head EB-0 which have lighter headstocks
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    Previous owners moved strap buttons but i use the original locations and it really doesn't bother me
     
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  8. Trib

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    Thank you all for the input. (SG Standard, excellent post) Aside from experimenting with the tuners, I guess the answer would be to live with it, sell it or reposition the rear neck strap button.
     
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  9. Trib

    Trib New Member

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    Bump.
     
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  10. DrBGood

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    I think the rear strap button is a very viable solution if you really like the bass and count on keeping it. If you change your mind later, it's not a biggie to plug it and put a drop of nail polish on the booboo. Or next owner might just appreciate the elegant solution.

    Can we see that marvel now ? We like pics.
     
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  11. VetPsychWars

    VetPsychWars Well-Known Member

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    I out a Babicz bridge on mine. Seemed to help a little. It's the short-scale, by the way.

    As for the guitar bridge, disaster!

    Tom
     
  12. LDS

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    Both of mine do it really badly. Just a fact of life.
     

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