Pickup Angle

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  1. pedecamp

    pedecamp Well-Known Member

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    Take a look at my SG with a batwing pickguard notice the pickups are not parallel to the strings. Is this normal? The pickup is so stiff in the pickguard I cannot move it so it will be parallel to the strings, I thought if it was it would pick up sound better. I suppose this is normal for this guitar, my other SG has angled pickup rings and I think gets better sound since the pickup screws are closer. Any thoughts?

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  2. sadmoodyfrazier

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    Perfectly normal for that pickguard. This is the reason why Angus uses a pickup ring @ bridge position. Many people places some foam under the bridge pickup to let it rotate a little.
     
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    pedecamp Well-Known Member

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    The pickups are stiff as a rock in the pickguard holes, stuck in that position forever.
     
  4. cerebral gasket

    cerebral gasket Well-Known Member

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    That has been normal from the factory since 1966. The reason that happens is because the neck is set to the body at an angle.

    That's what pickup rings are for. They are wedged to offset the neck to body angle.

    With my batwing-equipped SG, bridge pup gets mounting ring, neck pup gets foam underneath.

    Having the pickups parallel with the strings allows for better adjustment of the pickup height.

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    My '66 G400 Pro has the batwing pickguard and the pickups aren't level with the strings. It sounds great to me, I don't think it would sound any better if I bothered leveling them.
     
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    cerebral gasket Well-Known Member

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    With Flying V, I install pup rings at both neck and bridge positions.

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    Maybe pickups parallel with the strings is not so important.
     
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    cerebral gasket Well-Known Member

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    And then we have P-90's...

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    Pup legs can be bent to help with the cant.
     
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    It's not really all that important but it irritates me so I use pickup rings as well. Also looks better imho.
     
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    cerebral gasket Well-Known Member

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    I tend to agree it’s not that big of a deal but looks sloppy when they are not lined up. They got it right on the small guard SG, so why no love for the ones with the batwing?

    I remember when I got my first Flying V, a 1981 with large guard and having a WTF moment when it didn’t come with pup rings. I thought they were supposed to be stock after seeing pup rings on all the Flying V played by Schenker, Downing, Hoffmann.
     
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    Mine are very soft fixed. I can easily move them with my fingers.
     
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    I just had a religious sensation when for the first time on any forum I ever hung out on, Wolff Hoffman was mentioned. About fcking time!
     
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    Never heard of him. Googled him, never heard of his band. If no forum ever mentionned him, it looks like I'm not the only one in the dark.
     
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    cerebral gasket Well-Known Member

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    Accept - Balls to the Wall
    That video is great reference for the dual Flying V lineup.
    The 1975-1979 Flying V are my favorite.
    I like the headstock shape on those the most.
     
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    I wouldn't know about that, only that no forum I ever visited did, to my knowledge. That doesn't mean that "his band" was not one of THE most influential metal bands nor that their song Breaker didn't pave the way for countless metal genres. Most of them sh!t, but still...
     
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    I posted numerous Accept vids elsewhere in another forum I attend.
    Long history, that band,.
     
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    Great hearing your take on things, VT
     
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    Cgasket, Couple questions since we are on the subject.

    Let me see, We have SG's Full Bat, Small Guard, P90's, Trim Rings, Straight vs Tilted pups,

    Have you had various experiences with SG's Lp's V's and found consistent or varying neck set angles? In other words, as the body goes, then the neck can sit in flatter or more of an angle, and thus there is a relationship of how high one must adust the bridge and Tail piece to not only not bind strings at the bridge, but also to have string heights set right on the neck? Sg, V and LP's ES's with stop tail and not Trapeze...
     

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