Potential neck issue - Gibson USA

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  1. Pinocchio

    Pinocchio New Member

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    I recently purchased one of the new Kirk Douglas SG's which plays and sounds great! However on close inspection I've noticed that the ebony finish doesn't cover the small gap between the neck and the scratch plate. Now this could just be down to a sloppy paint job but my concern is whether this is a sign that the neck hasn't been attached to the body correctly and therefore could cause me issues further down the line. Has anyone else experienced anything similar? Is this anything to worry about or just an annoying cosmetic issue?

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  2. donepearce

    donepearce Well-Known Member

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    Just cosmetic - standard Gibson sloppy, I'm afraid. Never knew Kirk Douglas played the SG though - I'm pretty sure he didn't in Spartacus!
     
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    But he did !

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    Do your own research :rofl:
     
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    donepearce Well-Known Member

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    Wow! I'm going to have to rewatch that!
     
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  5. PauloQS

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    Looks like the pickguard was mounted just a hair too low. Those pickguards have holes for the bridge posts at the other end. If you’re not having intonation issues, it means they didn’t mess up the placement of the bridge and you should be fine.
     
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    papagayo Well-Known Member

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    Gloss black paint ,

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    Not that i wanna sound rude, but this is what i would have expected from cheap aliexpress Chipson copies.
    Return it or demand discount
     
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    And it played good then ?
     
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    papagayo Well-Known Member

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    The pickguard is not at the right size, no more.
     
  11. Norton

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    much ado about nothing.
     
  12. AngelDeVille

    AngelDeVille Well-Known Member

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    Does it neck dive?
     
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    Welcome to ETSG!
    To answer your question, many SGs have neck joints with unfinished wood under the pick guard.
    Yours is not likely to fail or cause trouble later. The reason they are like this is the thin body
    that makes the SG what it is. We love our SGs for their light weight, so we put up with the neck
    joint that looks like that, and cover it with the pick guard. I'd say the flaw is a sloppy installation of
    the pick guard. ...so a minor cosmetic flaw, easily remedied.

    The first time I took off the pick guard on my first SG, I was amazed that the wood of the neck joint looked so unfinished there. But it didn't matter at all the tone and playability were everything I wanted.

    I measured the bridge height in mm and wrote that down,
    removed the old strings,
    removed the bridge,
    stared at the raw wood of the neck joint, *shrugged my shoulders...
    put some foam under the rear of each pickup to level them with the strings,
    re-installed the pick guard
    put the bridge back on, and measured it to make sure the thumbwheels hadn't moved
    installed new strings (using the self locking method)
    checked the intonation again,
    tuned 'er up and played music.

    Because there is a small gap where the plastic part doesn't cover the raw neck joint completely
    I recommend you get some black paint or ink, it doesn't matter what kind, and paint the raw
    wood that shows, so it looks "theatre black" and then play music.

    A cosmetic flaw as small as this one means nothing.
    What you said in your first post means everything:
    "I recently purchased one of the new Kirk Douglas SG's which plays and sounds great!"

    That's the important fact. A little black paint will render the small flaw less obvious, and the
    tone and playability will work their way into your heart... if you allow it.
    Little flaws add character IMHO. And the notion of a guitar that's perfect is an illusion.
     
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  14. Huntroll

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    Another issue is that the finish doesn't adhere to the "glue line" so well.
    As long as it intonates properly, I wouldn't worry about it.
    Based on -
    " new Kirk Douglas SG's which plays and sounds great! "
    I think you're good to go.
     
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    Just play the heck out of it. Seriously.
     
  16. Von Trapp

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    Jesus that's sloppy! For that kind of money I'd say one has the right to expect it to be perfect not have a noob mistake like that. Take it back and have them fix it. If they don't get sloppy work back they will never improve their QC.
     
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    Anybody ever just play their Gibsons and enjoy the great sound and feel?
     
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    Biddlin Well-Known Member

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    Nope, they frequently have better paint jobs. (Not nitro, but better) I used to own a Jaguar XJS V12. Superb, stunning performance and the sound, OMG. Factory paint overspray on the underside of the bonnet, boot, wheel wells and doors. I don't think anyone ever noticed.
     
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    I for one do understand what you mean and basically agree but any guitar that's over 1000 bucks and from a brand that purports to be "high end" I'd say one has a right to expect premium workmanship. If people for instance stopped bitching about neck dive and just took the guitars back then maybe the company would feel it was a good idea to finally address the issue. I think it's the same with all issues, however minor. (incidentally I had the same car and never found anything wrong with it)
     
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  20. Huntroll

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    Lacquer doesn't stick to wood glue , sorry.
     
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