Proper replacement pot for SG? (Gibson OEM part)

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  1. gnolivos

    gnolivos Member

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    I took delivery of a 2004 SG with terribly scratchy pots. One actually CUTS OUT entirely at 9-10 volume range!. Bummer. What is the proper replacement part for a 2004 Gibson SG Standard? I see 300K and 500K pots around (parts #PPAT-3XX and PPAT-5XX respectively), but I am not sure if any of these are the right part. I want to keep it all 'stock'.

    (Also, is it even worth spraying these things with lubricant as extended cure?)

    Thanks!
     
  2. nvosmeier

    nvosmeier New Member

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    I would not use lubricant on a pot. It will get gummy and cause the problem you have now. Keep the pot clean for best results. 300K and 500K pots are both okay to use. I would prefer the 500k pot for humbuckers.

    I just read your other post where you said you have had bad luck with Gibson SGs. Are you buying online?
     
  3. gnolivos

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    [quote author=nvosmeier link=topic=18975.msg230763#msg230763 date=1238114799]
    I just read your other post where you said you have had bad luck with Gibson SGs. Are you buying online?
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    Had gone through 3... all NEW from 2008/09. Those had issues I could not live with.

    This one is used, 2004, in excellent condition, aside from the pots. You say not to use lubricants? Most people recommend Sprays to fix dirty pots... that's what I was hoping to do.

    300K or 500K, that is the question. All I really care about is replacing the EXACT part specs... does anyone know if these have 300 or 500 from factory?
     
  4. gnolivos

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    I tried Deoxit numerous time on the worse pot, and t actually only got worse. Now it cuts off entirely anywhere in the range (randomly) from 1-10 on the knob, whereas before it was cutting off only around 9-10.
     
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    TattooedCarrot Well-Known Member

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    300k tone 500k volume. But those stock parts and values suck and most people replace them anyway. Get some CTS 500k all the way around and you'll be better off. It won't take from the value either, because most people who know better realize its an upgrade.
     
  6. gnolivos

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    You have this backwards. The SG comes with 300K VOLUME, and 500K TONE. Look it up. Really. I know it would be more logical the other way around, but that's how it is. And I actually prefer it this way... I've had both configurations.

    EDIT: Second post of this thread for more info... HERE:
    "The stock Vol pots starting circa-1990 thru today for all Standard production models (not Historic or Custom Shop) are 300k linear-taper, and Tone pots are 500k audio-taper."
    I of course verified this by looking at the stock pot configuration on my SG.

    [quote author=TattooedCarrot link=topic=18975.msg231342#msg231342 date=1239519506]
    300k tone 500k volume. But those stock parts and values suck and most people replace them anyway. Get some CTS 500k all the way around and you'll be better off. It won't take from the value either, because most people who know better realize its an upgrade.
    [/quote]
     
  7. 1Way

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    300k instead of 500k vol pots
    I've never heard this before. I thought it was the other way around. Don't some use 1meg pots for the vol, maybe that's more for LP's tho? I thought 300k was more for Strats/Teles.

    How do you check the pot's rating? If you used an ohm meter, although that may prove helpful, but it may be rather inaccurate. I've heard of some 500k pots read into the 300's.


    Some state that it's audio taper, some say it's linear, some say they it's a linear/audio taper hybrid potentiometer.

    One guy said that there are no hard and fast rules that Gibson plays by. Read between the lines, specifications are subject to change.
    ;)
     
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    just have a look at the codes

    "...44071079 - long shaft "tone" pot, 100K audio in very late 70s through mid 1980s, 500K audio in 1990s up until today
    44070034 - long shaft "volume" pot, 300K linear
    44070028 - short shaft "volume" pot, 300K linear
    44070035 - short shaft "tone" pot, 500K audio
    44070500 - short shaft pots, 500K, used in recent Historics, the pots with the scary plastic insides ..."


    as posted in
    http://www.lespaulforum.com/pots/lpfpots.html

    my faded and every faded and modern special in general i've seen have 300k volumes and 500k tones
     
  9. dbb

    dbb Well-Known Member

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    Back in the good ole' 70's we used 250K pots for single coils, 500k for humbuckers, both tone and volume. Seemed to work well enough then for all the classic rock sounds.
     

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