Put my strap button on the horn.

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  1. chrisoldroyd

    chrisoldroyd New Member

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    so I went ahead and moved the position of the strap button from the back of the guitar to the tip of the horn. I used the same screw and button.

    I drilled a very fine guide hole at a slight angle into the wider part of the horn as I wanted the button right on the tip but was scared of being too close to the edge. I then kept increasing the bit size and then when the hole was a bit smaller than the screw I fitted the button and screwed it in.

    It is really tight and no sign of any movement. G400 Pro now sits in a much nicer position and no more neck diving.

    Will keep a close eye on it over the next few days and post up a pic when I get a minute.
     
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    Does this really counter neck dive? I haven't been convinced by this claim so far...

    Disclaimer: I have the Epiphone Iommi Signature which has the button on the horn by default. It still has mild neck heaviness.

    Waiting for your pics!
     
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    Practical as it may be......I couldn't have that sitting on the end of my horn like that :shock:. I've solved my neck dive with a wide suede strap.
     
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    Physics are absolute. One of my early guitars was a BC Rich Warlock, tho, so the SG "neck dive" phenomenon seems more like a "slight neck sag" to me.
    On that warlock, btw, I did the same thing OP has done to his SG, and it completely eliminated the neck turbo swan dive straight into the darkest depths of hell phenomenon.
     
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    If I were you, Id drill a deeper hole and put in a screw at least double the lenght. You don't want that horn to crack open don't you ?

    If it was mine to do, I'd grind the underside of the button, so it matched the horn surface angle. Maybe half way to the circumference of the button base. With the longer screw, then you get something bullet proof.

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    Yes, agreed. It looks like it's not going to end well as it is now :shock:
     
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    I hope that it works out. The qualities of wood, even wood from the same tree are so variable that I would not trust that mounting without seeing the bare wood's grain before hand. If it is tight enough and the wood is hard enough, it's golden.
     
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    If I had a real issue with my SG neck diving, and I don't, I'd go with sister Rosetta's much more traditional and elegant solution.
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    Looks good but does that really help with neck dive? MyG400 has awful neck dive.
     
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    Well if it doesn't you're screwed because unless you mount a lightning rod on your headstock, there ain't no further forward to strap it down.:rofl: Maybe it's just my amazing strength that allows me to control a sub 9 lb. guitar without any weird contraptions or re configuring the hardware placement, but honest to Maria Butina, I never gave it a thought until I read so many posts from those for whom it is an issue. Sam put a flower on his headstock with complete confidence.:naughty:
     
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    Same here. I started loosing sleep over that, the day I joined this forum.

    I played a SG bass for years when I was young and I don't remember having nightmares about neck dive then. And man, that is a long neck compared to a 6 stringer SG. 5¾" lonnnger, with humongus heavy paddles for tuners.

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    Love those.
     
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    use a cloth (cotton) strap and the guitar stays put much better.
     
  16. JESUSG

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    I just hold the neck when I'm playing and no neck dive occurs.

    It must be something I'm doing. ;)
     
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    Maybe stop doing the "come on people lets all clap together over your head" might stop neck dive.
     
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    Glue fishing sinkers with neoprene glue in the control cavity of your Epiphone.

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    It is invisible, reversible and effective.
     
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    Or a number of one pound weight bags until the guitar eclipses 10 pounds, yep, tried that, Iommi mod on a new 2013 ‘61 tribute Gibson SG, yep, tried that along with the CC weights, belt loop trick, yep, check, still dives. I also had an original Ibanez DC Artist back in the late ‘70’s, the one with the baseball bat neck, dove like a big dog, geez, I just can’t take that anymore. If I have to think about holding it up and being inspired to play, that one isn’t for me. Have I become the ‘get the hell off my lawn’ dude I despised when younger?
     
  20. purple dragon

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    I have done this on most off my sg and i will say its a mix bag.some you will still Get a littel headdive and some will stop and dont move at all.i have only have one horn crack but that was my mistake and i shoued have known better than to use a screw to big compaird to the hole.
    But the main reason i do it is because whene i play the strap goes around the upper horn and push it againt my chest so i cant have it on the back.putting it on the horn eliminate that AS well AS helps against neck dive.
     

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