Replacement Pickup Idea - SG Neck

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  1. pedecamp

    pedecamp Well-Known Member

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    I've been wanting to replace the 490R neck pickup in my SG for something less muddy and I got thinking. I had this idea, what about a noiseless single coil for Strat tones but in a humbucker format, to look like my 490R but really only 1 bobbin is wound. Has this been done? Is there such a pickup available? I know coil splitting has been done but I don't know if that would give a Strat neck pickup sound or not. A pickup like this would allow for installation without special modification of my SG and maintain its esthetics.
     
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    Why not a humbucker sized P90?
     
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    I have an Oil City Brassknuckle waiting for installation in the neck of my Epi SG.

    Humbuckers - search for Brassknuckle.

    Could offer you what you are looking for? It's a very clever design.
     
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    pedecamp Well-Known Member

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    P90 is not noiseless, plus I want to keep the humbucker esthetic. But not a bad idea.
     
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    pedecamp Well-Known Member

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    This looks interesting :thumb:
     
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    I was listening to a youtoob clip of a Les Paul with a DiMarzio BluesBucker. It sounded great, you might consider it as a singlecoilish humbucker. I read on DiMarzio's website that the bluesbucker, a regular humbucker in appearance, is supposed to sound like a p-90. I couldn't tell if it did really, but it did posses good clarity and range. Incidentally, I put a DiMarzio PAF 36th anniv. in the neck position of my SG. Sounds great!

    As a brand, I'd given up on DiMarzio after metal fell out of fashion, uh, 20 years ago... but I was astonished at how well their vintage output humbuckers perform, especially for the money.
     
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    That's an interesting idea for a neck pickup.

    Curious, have you ever considered a 57 classic in the neck?
     
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    pedecamp Well-Known Member

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    Yup that was my original plan. I'd been playing my Strat a lot and got thinking...
     
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    It should be simple enough to just wire 1 coil on a 4 or 5 wire pickup, but I think I'd make it switchable, just for the flexibility . I haven't found 490s muddy, but another thought would be changing the pots' and capacitors' values. I like keeping the dual coil appearance.
    Biddlin ;>)/
     
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    Ever considered mini humbuckers?
     
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    No because I believe they are P90 size which wouldnt fit in an SG? Not sure though.
     
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    I think I'm liking this Dimarzio Bluesbreaker as an option. So far prettty high on my list.
     
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    pedecamp Well-Known Member

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    I know alot of people really like their 490's, mine just comes out muddy for me. I like the dual coil appearance too, pots and capacitors might be the way to go, maybe a simple pot change to 500k to brighten things up might do it. Like I was saying in one of my earlier posts, it would be really cool to get a single coil Strat neck tone, I dont know if I'd get that with a 500k pot on a 490R pickup, but you might know since you have more experience with this kind of thing.
     
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    Their width is the same as a humbucker. All you need to do is close the gaps on the ring, pretty simple stuff.
    [​IMG]
     
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    Fralin P-92 would be a good choice.

    ETA:

    [ame]www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDSdIV7Nhnw[/ame]
     
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    I have 500k pots in both my Specials, so that may be the key. I don't know if you'll get Strat tone from splitting a humbucker or not. I've worked on some split coil Gibsons and the tone is darker. I also have a very clean H-90 neck pickup in one of my g-400s and the tone is distinctly thicker than my Strat's w/ Texas specials. Whatever you decide, lots of pics when you do it.:dude:
    Biddlin ;>)/
     
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    I'm not even sure what the pots already are in a faded SG for that matter, I suspect not 500k though.
     
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    I think all the production line models come with 300k, and the Custom ri's have the 500s . Gibson sought to take the top end "bite" out of their humbuckers with the change. Fender made similar changes, at about the same time(70s?) for the same reasons, to tone down the treble.
    Biddlin ;>)/
     
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    I wonder why? All you need to do is roll the older pots off a tiny bit to tone down treble.
     

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