Replacing a Schaller harmonica style bridge..

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  1. Sg Johnny

    Sg Johnny New Member

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    Is there a replacement bridge that will fit the spacing for a schaller harmonica?
    With no re drilling or changing the threaded studs?

    I would like to install one with a bit smaller size and less weight.
     
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    Six String Moderator Staff Member

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    Welcome to ETSG Sg Johnny! :D :D :D

    Someone can help you out I'm sure. Grab a donut while you wait...! 8) 8) 8)
     
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    Sg Johnny New Member

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    Thanks!

    I've been lurking for at least two years and I'm always amazed at the info/ knowledge compiled at this site.

    I just picked up a mint '73 Sg standard, and I'm trying to make small adjustments.
     
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    Glad you took the plunge! :D A lot of us started out as "lurks" and ended up mainstream........ :lol: :lol: :lol:

    There is a great deal of knowledge here from some of the nicest people you'll ever meet. Conrats on the 73, but if you've lurked for that long, you already know pix are a must......>! :lol: :lol: :lol: 8) 8) 8)
     
  5. ess

    ess Guest

    aye good Q johnny.

    thing is the harmonica studs are straight and the ABR/ nash for example is angled so theyre out of the question.

    one of the studs on my 73 special is worn so im interested too if theres a replacement,.

    stick around.
     
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    what Ess sez Johnny..he beat me to it :)

    .. welcome on board, anyway :)
     
  7. Sg Johnny

    Sg Johnny New Member

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    Thanks again!

    Yep, I really need to get a digi camera.

    Right now, Ive got four Sg's-
    a 1968 Special,
    a custom shop '63 special reissue,
    a late 90's standard,
    and the "new" 1973 standard with ebony fretboard.

    Here's the thing..they are all left-handed.

    My first Sg was one of those late '70's, one humbucker pickup (engraved Gibson logo), walnut jobs with the fine tuners on the tailpiece, that I bought when I was eighteen.

    I sold it long ago because it wouldn't stay in tune..and I didn't know how to fix the problem.
     
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    Welcome SGJ! Seems to be a first here....left handed active members.... :shock: :D
     
  9. CharlieB

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    Its the angle thing like Ess said. You cant get smaller size with a straight bridge because you need the travel afforded by the wide harmonica. That is, the high and low E's need to be offset by more than the amount the ABR-1/Nashville could do if it were set straight like the harmonica.

    Bummer I know. But hey, you own a piece of history.. enjoy it!
     
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    Sg Johnny New Member

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    Dang..

    I understand what your saying..do you think there is a lighter weight version of that bridge?
     
  11. ess

    ess Guest

    whats the weight problem jonny? Sg's hardly a back breaker even with a full vibrola system on em.
     
  12. Sgmaniac

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    Welcome Johnny! Two years of lurking, damn, that's a record for sure!
    I have a 74' with the harmonica bridge and I could use a new one as well. I see them for sale sometimes, but usually with out the studs and I need those as well. I wonder if the Schaller roller bridge would work? They are fairly wide. 8)
     
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    The guitar is about 7lb 6oz..very light when compared to my Les Paul.

    The schaller is one big chunk- o- metal, it couldn't hurt to lighten it if possible.

    My other Sg's are what might be called featherweights.

    The weight is a small issue. The look of the bridge is what got me thinking about options.

    Anyway, the palm of my hand covers the bridge about 99% of the time.
     
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    Johnny,

    Keep the bridge. It's what makes that year SG cool!
    Functionally it is fine and no reason the replace it. :D
     
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    That is true..

    The guitar looks great- it's got a very light korina type natural finish and you can see all kinds of grain and swirls.
    Ebony fretboard / frets are perfect with no wear and this is the only older Sg Ive seen that hasnt got dents or chunks banged in the headstock.

    The original pickups sound smooth and powerful...I dare say better that the pickups in my 90's standard.
    --

    I'm still interested in what's out there bridge-wise.
     
  16. ess

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    sgmmer may be right bout the schaller roller bridge.. i just measured the width , stud centre to stud centre on my harmonica type and its the same as a roller.

    dunno if it will give you the space for intonation tho. i got .600 adjustment on the harmonica here, and the roller is .709 in total, might just work.

    what about posts errrrr?????? :shock:

    http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Bridges...c/1/Schaller_Roller_Bridge/Specs.html#details

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    From Guitar Player Repair Guide by Dan Erlewine-

    He writes the hole to hole stud centers for the Wide Schaller is 2.891.

    The posts are a 10-32 threaded rod given a 6-32 thread.
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    The size of the hole is another thing..if the hole is slightly larger it could still sit on the posts with the strings putting constant pressure on the bridge.
    That doesnt sound like a good thing tone-wise, though.
     
  18. Sgmaniac

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    The Schaller will fit on stock Gibson studs for the current Nashville or TOM bridge. I guess the studs could be replaced with those? 8)
     
  19. Sg Johnny

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    I would like to keep the original studs..if I couldnt do that I would just keep the schaller as it is and forget about it.

    Man, thinking about slowly unscrewing those stud post, hoping they don't break off, or start to spin freely in the wood, gives me the willies!
     
  20. ess

    ess Guest

    maybe dan arsewhile was huffin glue


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