Rounded ‘50s neck

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  1. Norton

    Norton Well-Known Member

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    I’m sure the neck profile is irrelevant to you col mustard. And that’s totally cool.

    I’ve got guitars with huge baseball necks. Sharp v profiles...and even a Wandré with a no-profile aluminum half round neck spine.

    It is true that you should be able to adapt to pretty much anything within reason.

    Maybe they’re doing it to make playing the upper register “easier” but I find that flattened back to be annoying. Not fatal, but like a sliver in your finger or a pebble in your shoe, Annoying.

    So basically you’re saying this:
    Allowing your feet to tell you which shoes fit is like taking advice from a stick. You just don’t do it. You wear the shoes that look cool and that will make people like you on Instagram.

    And that is ridiculous.
     
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    You know, I've been wrong all these years, practicing those thousands of hours, learning my craft, its glossary, perfecting technique and taking pride in my accomplishment.. I should have found the perfect guitar that would simply sit in my hands and play itself. I could have just played cards and watched tv.
     
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    cerebral gasket Well-Known Member

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    It's not a perfect world.
     
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    Nobody said perfect.
    Nobody said “right or wrong”.

    One size fits all? Maybe.

    Comfortable...fit. Yes.

    But what is perfect anyway? I wouldn’t waste my time looking for perfect.

    Hone away!
     
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  5. cerebral gasket

    cerebral gasket Well-Known Member

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    Well said!
    I agree 100% and have been trying to figure out a way to articulate that point across without offending anyone here.

    My post "It's not a perfect world" was not in response to your post above. My apologies for any confusion it may have created.

    I used to not know what kind of neck profile I preferred and just played whatever was available. It wasn't until I got an SG '61 Reissue in the past that was flat on the back of the neck that I discovered it annoyed me so now I simply avoid Slim Taper necks. Having choices is a great thing IMO.
     
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  6. DrBGood

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    I like plain peanut butter, not crunchy or all natural, not gluten free or Vegan, not sweetened with red gelly swirls, not granola or organic. But if I was stuck on a deserted island with cases of Vegan peanut butter, I'd gladly eat it and would probably forget about the plain one I used to like. But I'm not in that situation, so ... I can keep buying the one I like.

    I can play all and any Slim Taper necks out there, but I "prefer" something with more meat on it. If Slim Taper was to be the only neck shape available on every guitars ever, I would get used to it and happily play it/them. But what if I have the choice ?
     
  7. Biddlin

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    The obvious pragmatic choice is the one the OP made.
    He asked if there are any fat-necked Epiphone SGs out there right now. I told him no, the truth if that matters, and suggested he look for a good Gibson Special, which he indicated he liked. After a bunch of equivocation we finally established that fat necks are not an Epiphone option and the OP opines, "I shall look for a Gibson Special." (The other choice is to make or have made a neck to your pleasure.)The Col. advises that they are all good necks if you relax and play them. Then the "why should I be adaptable." crowd rushes in, oblivious to all reason and devoid of manners.

    Too thin output from overly restricted inputs.
     
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  8. Norton

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    Biddlin, thank you for being so exceptionally dependable.
    You've elevated "conversational buzz killing" to the highest art. Well done!
     
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    Okay, okay... I knew I would get some flak for saying it as clearly
    as I know how.

    AND I do know that lots of players on this forum and others are
    convinced that a few millimeters of wood one way or another must make
    a big difference.

    I do know these things. I just don't get it. And that's cool too.
    If a guitar that I tried out tended to annoy me, I wouldn't buy it.
    But maybe it goes back to my self definition as a guitar slut.
    I seem to like them all. *shrugs

    I like the tones... I like the colors, I like the shapes...
    I'm very fond of guitars of many kinds.
    That's where I am. I don't mean to sound snarky.

    I admit that feet can't adapt to different sizes of shoe,
    but I maintain that hands CAN adapt to different sizes of guitar...
    because I seem to do it at every show, without fuss.
     
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    Col Mustard Well-Known Member

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    yes and if we can argue about a topic as dear to the hearts
    of men as this one, without to much rancor, let's do it.
    I will sincerely try not to be obnoxious. *grins

    I read over my earlier post and hoped I hadn't offended my colleagues
    here. And I do actually think about the responses, because that's why
    I come here. So let's keep it civil, and let newcomers and old timers
    all speak freely.

    in the end, the reader gets to make up his or her own mind.
    and yes, lucky us that we have choices.
     
  12. Biddlin

    Biddlin Well-Known Member

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    It must be because we lack a sense of entitlement.
     
  13. SGSam

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    First the philosophical part ~ personally, I don't think guitar reviewers talk about neck shape and feel enough, if they do at all. And that also goes for fretboard width, fret size, etc. Thats the stuff your hand touches constantly when playing, it effects how you bond with the instrument, so yeah, experienced musicians develop a preference as they should. Personally, the Epi slim-taper D neck shape and Epi fretboard size is a huge selling point for me, I own five different models that have it. I buy Gibsons with 60's necks, not chunky 50's style. Those are phasing out for a reason. Standard issue Gibson and Epi necks are moving to the thinner side to appeal to more buyers.
    Secondly, as some Epiphone endorsers with signature models have their personal preference for deeper "C" necks, that seems to be where you will find them. Lee Malia LPs have fat necks, its one of my favorites. Unfortunately, all Epi SGs are slim taper nowadays. Excellent guitars, worth giving them a chance for a spot in your arsenal. Cheers my brother!
     
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    So ... you like them girlz slim or fat ?
     
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    Fat bottomed girls, you make the rockin' world go 'round!
     
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    This. :lol::rofl:
     

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